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ShowtimeSBMVP · 01-20-2014, 04:02 PM

NFL eyeing proposal to abolish extra points
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By Marc Sessler
Around the League Writer
Published: Jan. 20, 2014 at 04:53 p.m.
Is the extra point about to go the way of the dinosaur?

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell told NFL Network's Rich Eisen on Monday that the league's Competition Committee might eventually abolish the time-tested point after touchdown in favor of a brand-new scoring system.

"The extra point is almost automatic," Goodell said. "I believe we had five missed extra points this year out of 1,200 some odd. So it's a very small fraction of the play, and you want to add excitement with every play.

"There's one proposal in particular that I've heard about. It's automatic that you get seven points when you score a touchdown, but you could potentially go for an eighth point, either by running or passing the ball, so if you fail, you go back to six."

Extra points have become an afterthought. Unless you're up against Lawrence Taylor in Tecmo Bowl, there's virtually zero drama attached to the point after. Taylor's old coach Bill Belichick has often opined about about how unnecessary the extra point feels.

Goodell said "some issues" stand in the way of a change, asking: "Is that going to discourage people from going for two?"

We doubt it. Teams inclined to go for the deuce will continue to do so in situations that call for an eight-point score -- with the same potential consequences. Traditionalists might disagree, but this is a good idea long overdue.

Well, unless you're a kicker.

Goodell's entire interview will air Monday night at 8 p.m. ET on NFL Network's "Total Access."

listopencil · 01-20-2014, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by greatgooglymoogly

EP kicks in rugby aren't limited by a narrow set of hash marks. They can be attempted along the sideline, if that happens to be where the player scored the try.

Goodell's complaint was that EPs were too easy and "automatic". I proposed something to make them more difficult.

I would rather get rid of them.

NinerDoug · 01-20-2014, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers

It's pretty easy to hate. All Goodell cares about is scoring, and this will force teams to go for two (as in, MOAR POINTZZZZ). He's watering down the league one rule change at a time.

How will it force teams to go for two? You get seven automatically. But if you go for two and fail, you get six. Same as now, only you just don't have to kick the extra point if you are ok with 7.

greatgooglymoogly · 01-20-2014, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil

I would rather get rid of them.

The kicks, or the hash marks? I agree either way.

**Donger** · 01-20-2014, 04:50 PM

How many times did teams attempt two points this year instead of the EP? What percentage?

**Rausch** · 01-20-2014, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsChoke010414

I understand the dislike of Goodell, but I've thought about this idea for a long time.

There's not many other plays in sports (if any), where points are awarded in such an automatic fashion. It's a pointless play. Everyone equates a touchdown with 7 points anyway.

So move the XP to the 20.

At least then the wind and rush has a legitimate impact...

listopencil · 01-20-2014, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by greatgooglymoogly

The kicks, or the hash marks? I agree either way.

The kicks, but I wouldn't be upset if they dropped the hashes as well.

BlackHelicopters · 01-20-2014, 04:58 PM

Make it a longer kick. Simple.

KChiefer · 01-20-2014, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

I realize that the league will just ignore the logic problem. That doesn't mean we shouldn't point it out.

There is no logic problem. If they do this they can remove 5-10 worthless plays per game. Heck, now when teams get inside the 2 often they'll just go for it on 4th. There were a whopping 12 19yd fgs in the entire NFL this year out of 998 total. There were 1267 xps.

KChiefer · 01-20-2014, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

So move the XP to the 20.

At least then the wind and rush has a legitimate impact...

Sweet then we can start valuing kickers more, just what everyone wants!

Prison Bitch · 01-20-2014, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Why don't they consider moving the extra point kicks back so they are not so automatic?

I posted a thread awhile back from a Peter King I think that argued that NFL kickers have become too good.

I like it.

TEX · 01-20-2014, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsChoke010414

I understand the dislike of Goodell, but I've thought about this idea for a long time.

There's not many other plays in sports (if any), where points are awarded in such an automatic fashion. It's a pointless play. Everyone equates a touchdown with 7 points anyway.

Except on the rare occasions when it is missed/blocked and it ads something to the game. Im in favor of keeping it as is for that reason.

kcpasco · 01-20-2014, 05:09 PM

And the transformation of a once great game continues. Why in the hell do they have to keep ruining this sport.

listopencil · 01-20-2014, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco

And the transformation of a once great game continues. Why in the hell do they have to keep ruining this sport.

You enjoy the PAT?

KChiefer · 01-20-2014, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Except on the rare occasions when it is missed/blocked and it ads something to the game. Im in favor of keeping it as is for that reason.

5 out of 1267 kicks. Or 5 out of 256 games. 2% of games potentially affected.

**Rain Man** · 01-20-2014, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

"There's one proposal in particular that I've heard about. It's automatic that you get seven points when you score a touchdown, but you could potentially go for an eighth point, either by running or passing the ball, so if you fail, you go back to six."

Clark must be on Chiefsplanet, because I proposed this exact idea a while back.

Clark, if you're reading this, good job. Post once in a while, and be sure to vote in the sceneitall tournament. And my company does analytics if you ever want to get a competitive upper hand.

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