Robert Orci takes over Star Trek 3

[Deberg_1990]

Interesting choice. A ton of writing and producing credits, but never directed anything.



http://variety.com/2014/film/news/ro...-3-1201180140/



After weeks of rumblings that Roberto Orci was the frontrunner, sources have told Variety that Skydance and Paramount have indeed tapped Orci to direct Paramount and Skydance’s “Star Trek 3.”

Orci is currently writing the story with J.D. Payne and Patrick McKay and had been campaigning to replace J.J. Abrams as director for some time. Abrams is busy with directing the next installment of the “Star Wars” franchise and will only be producing this pic.

Par, Skydance and his reps had no comment.

Plot details are unknown, but cast members including Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto are expected to return. Abrams will produce along with his producing partner Bryan Burke and Skydance’s David Ellison.

The news comes after Orci and longtime writing partner Alex Kurtzman decided to go their separate ways on future filmmaking endeavors (although their TV production company is staying intact). Sources had told Variety that both were looking to direct more pics and that going solo would be in the best interest of both parties.

[Chieficus]

http://m.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-30930693

News a few days old: Pegg will co-write the script.

That will probably help... So long as they don't encounter alien robots as they pub hop from planet to planet.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Chieficus

http://m.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-30930693

News a few days old: Pegg will co-write the script.

That will probably help... So long as they don't encounter alien robots as they pub hop from planet to planet.

I don't know about anyone else but I have serious doubts about ST3. Simon Pegg is a fine actor and comedian but it's difficult for me to believe that he'll deliver a script that will appeal to the fans and the general public.

[keg in kc]

Hard to tell, he's done a lot of writing, and most of it has been well received from the geek side of the aisle, but he's never done anything like this. At least not that I remember.

Still, it ain't Orci and Kurtzman and especially Lindelof. So there is that.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Hard to tell, he's done a lot of writing, and most of it has been well received from the geek side of the aisle, but he's never done anything like this. At least not that I remember.

Still, it ain't Orci and Kurtzman and especially Lindelof. So there is that.

I certainly agree. There's a chance that he writes a story that will have endless appeal to Trekkies and Trekkers and everyone that loves Star Trek, while at the same time, is a box office failure and the end of this reboot cycle.

I hope it works because I like the characters and cast.

[Chieficus]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Hard to tell, he's done a lot of writing, and most of it has been well received from the geek side of the aisle, but he's never done anything like this. At least not that I remember.

Still, it ain't Orci and Kurtzman and especially Lindelof. So there is that.

That's my feeling. I think he's capable of writing a good Trek movie the nerd in me will love, but can be do mass appeal which paramount obviously wants and how much will that plus studio pressure affect it?

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I certainly agree. There's a chance that he writes a story that will have endless appeal to Trekkies and Trekkers and everyone that loves Star Trek, while at the same time, is a box office failure and the end of this reboot cycle.

I hope it works because I like the characters and cast.

Very much this. I didn't even hate ST2 like most of these trekkies. It would be a shame to waste the cast.

[Chieficus]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Very much this. I didn't even hate ST2 like most of these trekkies. It would be a shame to waste the cast.

I'm not one of these convention going, uniform wearing guys; but I can talk Trek until other people drop dead of boredom.

I thought with ITD, if you can mentally separate it from the original 2, it's a good movie. The problem is, they could have gone anywhere after the reboot, but they go there and just swap stuff around like Kirk and Spock and the Khan yell.

It's a good movie but lazy story telling.

You can basically do anything you want, do something new. Tell that story with Benedict C as John Harrison and not Khan.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I certainly agree. There's a chance that he writes a story that will have endless appeal to Trekkies and Trekkers and everyone that loves Star Trek, while at the same time, is a box office failure and the end of this reboot cycle.

I hope it works because I like the characters and cast.

Has there been a trek film that was more than a marginal financial success?

I'm a lifelong trek fan and a serious fan of science fiction and I've liked both of the reboots. I think the thing that's hurt these movies the most at the box office - and I think this is true for movies in general - is herd mentality stemming from the growth of social media. People make their minds up before they even see anything, which of course has always happened to a degree but I think it's extremely heightened now. And I don't think spoiler culture has helped either. I've done my best to only go with general, non-spoiler reviews for the past couple of years, and I'm finding that I enjoy more movies in general. Now maybe that's a coincidence and I'm happier in general, but I suspect it has more to do with limiting preconceptions.

In any case, that's a big tangent. We'll see how this goes. I'm not sure the director of fast and furious movies paired with a guy known for writing comedic movies screams 'star trek' but there's always a chance they can surprise us.

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Very much this. I didn't even hate ST2 like most of these trekkies. It would be a shame to waste the cast.

I liked both of them. Not really Trek movies, and i am fine with that. But as far as wasting the cast, I do not think of them as a ST cast. Just people doing a ST movie..

To me, it needs to be like the ST or TNG, they need a tv show first before they get a movie to become the actual cast if they are going with Kirk again.. The problem is I do not see a tv company outside of CW giving it a chance to grow before they cancel it... For a new ST tv series unless they hit it right out of the park the 1st(which is tough) it will need 3 seasons to hit its groove.

I would rather it be set after TNG, have Riker be the leader of the Federation or something for a tv show.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Valiant

I liked both of them. Not really Trek movies, and i am fine with that. But as far as wasting the cast, I do not think of them as a ST cast. Just people doing a ST movie..

To me, it needs to be like the ST or TNG, they need a tv show first before they get a movie to become the actual cast if they are going with Kirk again.. The problem is I do not see a tv company outside of CW giving it a chance to grow before they cancel it... For a new ST tv series unless they hit it right out of the park the 1st(which is tough) it will need 3 seasons to hit its groove.

I would rather it be set after TNG, have Riker be the leader of the Federation or something for a tv show.

http://screenrant.com/star-trek-capt...-michael-dorn/

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by Bowser

http://screenrant.com/star-trek-capt...-michael-dorn/

I like Worf the character, but he had his chance on DS9.. There is no way this idea gets picked up as himself as the focal point.. Maybe as a webseries..

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Valiant

I liked both of them. Not really Trek movies, and i am fine with that. But as far as wasting the cast, I do not think of them as a ST cast. Just people doing a ST movie..

To me, it needs to be like the ST or TNG, they need a tv show first before they get a movie to become the actual cast if they are going with Kirk again.. The problem is I do not see a tv company outside of CW giving it a chance to grow before they cancel it... For a new ST tv series unless they hit it right out of the park the 1st(which is tough) it will need 3 seasons to hit its groove.

I would rather it be set after TNG, have Riker be the leader of the Federation or something for a tv show.

The reason there are no Sci-Fi, space set TV shows is cost. That's why LucasFilm is in its second animated series, with no immediate plans for a live action program.

Cost.

[RealSNR]

Paramount won't sell or "loan" out the franchise to a network in which it could really prosper (can you imagine a new Star Trek show as a Netflix series? How huge would that be?). It also won't make new stuff because it believes the bullshit with UPN and Rick Berman tainting the writing is indicative of the demand for the product.

That's the really frustrating part-- the formula for a new successful Star Trek series is so simple. They know who's good at it and who's not based on the work they've done over 18 years. They know what the fans like. With social media it's never been easier to take the pulse of a fanbase to find out what is good and what isn't.

For crying out loud, it's not like the would lose money on this. Trekkies are people who kept TNG going after the first two abysmal seasons when they still had no marriage or reason to call the series anything closely related to the original that they loved. They would do the same for this one, too if it took awhile to get going.

A dream exists in the delusional part of my mind where a group of Paramount executives realize this and get the project going. They hire Ron Moore as producer, who hasn't been doing anything productive other than get some of his shows cancelled on SyFy after Caprica went down. He creates a new reboot that takes place in the 25th century, establishes some shattering premise similar to TNG's Klingon/Federation alliance (maybe something humans invent trans-warp drive or something) and then goes from there, taking a cue from BSG by establishing large arcs over the course of a season/half season. He sets a rule of NO child actors allowed in the main cast and NO shitty holodeck scripts.

Like I said, it's in the delusional part of my brain. Maybe some day.

[Bowser]

SNR, do you watch the internet Star Trek stuff? Apparently there is a series of Star Trek movies directed by Tim Russ that stars a ton of the actors that have played in the various ST shows/movies over the years. I have never heard about these until literally today. I want to watch this stuff, but I'm afraid that all of it is just god awful, and I don't need that shitting on the good memories of those ST actors.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Bowser

SNR, do you watch the internet Star Trek stuff? Apparently there is a series of Star Trek movies directed by Tim Russ that stars a ton of the actors that have played in the various ST shows/movies over the years. I have never heard about these until literally today. I want to watch this stuff, but I'm afraid that all of it is just god awful, and I don't need that shitting on the good memories of those ST actors.

I heard about them as well. In theory, they should be good enough to satisfy the needs of Trekkies. But... eh...

The first one they did was called Of Gods and Men. It brings back all the old warhorses and some new ones playing different characters- notably Nichelle Nichols and Walter Koenig, as well as John Harriman (Cameron from Ferris Bueller's Day Off, who was briefly captain of the Enterprise-B in Generations). They also put in appearances by Ethan Phillips, Tim Russ, JG Hertzler, and a few other recognizable faces. It's got actors, and the props/computer stuff/image setting is no worse than anything you'd see in early-mid 90s sci TV. They're not exactly filming this at some guy's house using bathtub mock-ups for the starships. In theory, it should be good or at least halfway decent.

But it's... it's just not. I don't know. I watched Of Gods And Men and just didn't get a Trek boner like I should have. I'm sure the new Tim Russ-directed films are probably about the same. I think it has to do with the lack of professional editors. Or something. I know nothing about producing or filmmaking, but yeah. Watch the opening scene below and you'll get what I mean. It clearly still screams "fan-made"