Rank the Chiefs needs

[RunKC]

In your opinion. What are your top 4 needs and why? (we have 4 picks in the top 3 rounds)

I'm gonna say in order of importance:

1. OL-Stephenson looked good last Sunday, but LG is terrible. IMO this is what is destroying our offense. No time to throw, no time for receivers to go deep or finish long routes, some problems in the running game (our RB's make to look way better though).

La'El Collins would solidify the left side IMO. He's a beast.

2. Receiver-we have 4 good weapons IMO: Kelce, DAT, Bowe and Charles. It doesn't even have to be a top WR. It could be a TE like Kelce. Get one more quality receiver bc Fasano and every WR after Bowe (except maybe Wilson. He's making the most of his opportunity) sucks.

Owen Daniels would be a solid FA pickup. He was only $1 million this season.

3. DB-sure we have some good guys there, but Abdullah and Parker are nearing 30. Sanders Commings is made of glass so a young safety to add would be helpful.
The Prewitt kid from Ole Miss is awesome, but we would most likely have to get him rd 1.

Is CB a huge need? Sean Smith has been very good this year. Gaines just needs to add strength and he'll be a fine #2 at this pace, Owens did well playing nickel and Cooper is here to develop. That's 4 guys. I'd take a mid rd guy to develop behind them.

4. Pass rusher-we add one every year and will again. Bailey should stay and we have Walker, but insurance for Cat could be needed.

I think we will draft an OLB for depth to prepare for Tamba's departure whether he stays or goes. I'd like to get one rd 3 in the event that we have a future stud to rotate with Ford/Houston and be ready if either gets hurt.

Thoughts?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by kccrow

DE is my number 5 and Safety is my number 6. Both could move up depending on who is retained. I'd foresee Bailey, Vickerson, and Parker all getting offers with their play this season. Mauga is the other I see getting an extension. I think Walker, Jenkins, Avery, and Allen are getting walking papers, as they save a combined 7.66 million against the cap.

Walker has given Poe a break this season and I'd be shocked to see him cut. Allen is the best LG on the current roster and it would be foolish to cut him at this point.

If you're looking for cap savings that make sense, look to DeVito at $4 million, Fasano at $2 million, Jenkins, Avery ($3.5) and of course, Berry's $8 million and Hali's $15 million.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Don't need my powers to understand picking LT was a bad idea.

Dumb. As. ****.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Walker has given Poe a break this season and I'd be shocked to see him cut. Allen is the best LG on the current roster and it would be foolish to cut him at this point.

If you're looking for cap savings that make sense, look to DeVito at $4 million, Fasano at $2 million, Jenkins, Avery ($3.5) and of course, Berry's $8 million and Hali's $15 million.

I wouldnt' call Walker's contributions much. Certainly not worth it when he saves you 1.75 million.

Allen is the best LG on the roster and about the 70th best guard in the NFL. He's ****ing terrible. I'd rather another 6th round pick were starting next year than ****ing Allen. My god, foolish? The only foolish thing is to keep that shit around. He saves you a million against the cap if cut. He's replaceable, easily.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I wouldnt' call Walker's contributions much. Certainly not worth it when he saves you 1.75 million.

Allen is the best LG on the roster and about the 70th best guard in the NFL. He's ****ing terrible. I'd rather another 6th round pick were starting next year than ****ing Allen. My god, foolish? The only foolish thing is to keep that shit around. He saves you a million against the cap if cut. He's replaceable, easily.

Yeah, because he was replaced soooooooooo easily in August.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You are, without a shadow of a doubt, one of the dumbest mother****ers to post on this site.

Fisher did not give up a sack or a pressure against either Richardson or Wilkerson last Sunday, but he shouldn't be starting in the NFL.

Good ****ing God, some people are just stupid

Excuse me for not patting a guy on the back who still finds it difficult to find his balance and avoid being tossed aside like a rag doll because he didn't give up a sack on an offense who's passing game is basically an extended run game full of screens, swing passes, and <5 yard slants. Fishers the most badass worst ranked tackle in the league. YOU GO FISHER!!!!!!!! The great DaneMcCloud has a 60th place ribbon for ya.

[OldSchool]

Question: Would you draft Marcus Peters? #1 man cover corner abilities but got tossed off of the team for what sounds like multiple incidents/confrontations with coaches.

I think he's a top 20 and possibly top 15 talent in the draft based on his play and skillset alone. But how far does his apparent attitude problems drop him in the draft? I'd use our 2nd on him and definitely one of our 3rd round picks.

[bshmerlie]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Question: Would you draft Marcus Peters? #1 man cover corner abilities but got tossed off of the team for what sounds like multiple incidents/confrontations with coaches.

I think he's a top 20 and possibly top 15 talent in the draft based on his play and skillset alone. But how far does his apparent attitude problems drop him in the draft? I'd use our 2nd on him and definitely one of our 3rd round picks.

I don't think it is wise to use even a 3rd round draft pick on a locker room cancer. Look at Percy Harvin. Getting millions of dollars is only going to make him worse.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by bshmerlie

I don't think it is wise to use even a 3rd round draft pick on a locker room cancer. Look at Percy Harvin. Getting millions of dollars is only going to make him worse.

You thinking something more like SF's Aaron Lynch? Taking a shot in the middle rounds?

Peters might end up being the best corner in this draft.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Question: Would you draft Marcus Peters? #1 man cover corner abilities but got tossed off of the team for what sounds like multiple incidents/confrontations with coaches.

I think he's a top 20 and possibly top 15 talent in the draft based on his play and skillset alone. But how far does his apparent attitude problems drop him in the draft? I'd use our 2nd on him and definitely one of our 3rd round picks.

Reminds me a lot of Phillip Gaines. Will be interesting to see how he measures and times at the Combine.

I have him graded as a borderline 1st/2nd round guy. Very possible he's in our wheelhouse. I think he's a great fit in press man.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Reminds me a lot of Phillip Gaines. Will be interesting to see how he measures and times at the Combine.

I have him graded as a borderline 1st/2nd round guy. Very possible he's in our wheelhouse. I think he's a great fit in press man.

Same here, he should do very well in this scheme. I think that he has the potential to be a guy that you could just ask to match up one on one against any receiver and he'll do very well. He's long and strong enough to take on bigger receivers, he's fast and quick enough to stick with smaller speed guys (watch him vs Cooks, was outstanding except for one play where, if I remember correctly, Cooks was able to get a step on him with a double move for a TD). My favorite thing about him is that he is a big time player, he plays his best when matched up against another top prospect; tells me that he is one hell of a competitor and shies away from nothing.

I wonder how bad his problems with the coaching staff really were, he wasn't the first player to be kicked off of that Washington team by the new coaching staff.

[ILChief]

We should look at trading up this year. It's bei predicted that we will end up with eleven or so picks. That many aren't making the roster anyway, so your choices are: move up for better players, trade down and stockpile picks in future years, or draft players that you are going to probably cut. I say move up and get the best receiver possible

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

... but I'm comfortable in the knowledge that I'm just a layman making educated guesses.

Oh Heavens no! thats no way to make an impact around here... you've gotta take a stand and stick by it to the death, admiting the possibility of being wrong is NOT allowed.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by ILChief

We should look at trading up this year. It's bei predicted that we will end up with eleven or so picks. That many aren't making the roster anyway, so your choices are: move up for better players, trade down and stockpile picks in future years, or draft players that you are going to probably cut. I say move up and get the best receiver possible

You do realize that this roster isn't all that deep right? I trust in Dorsey's ability to find gems in the mid to later rounds and this coaching staff's ability to develop them, enough to the point where I'd rather he had a lot of draft picks to spend vs trading up for a "blue chip" player.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by ILChief

We should look at trading up this year. It's bei predicted that we will end up with eleven or so picks. That many aren't making the roster anyway, so your choices are: move up for better players, trade down and stockpile picks in future years, or draft players that you are going to probably cut. I say move up and get the best receiver possible

In the 2013 draft, 73 juniors declared for the NFL draft. In 2014, 98 juniors declared for the NFL draft. That number is expected to rise once again in 2015.

The point is that there will be so much talent available that trading up would be a mistake considering that a second round value in 2012 could be had in the fourth round of 2015. In 2014, it's easy to argue that the Chiefs (and other teams, of course) were getting a full round higher in value for their second and third day selections.

Now, if Dorsey were to trade Eric Berry for a third rounder, giving the Chiefs three thirds, it wouldn't be surprising if he packaged a third and a fifth in order to jump up to the late second/early third.

But since Compensatory Picks aren't tradeable, I'd be surprised to see him package up picks and move up the board.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah, because he was replaced soooooooooo easily in August.

My opinion, yes he was. We went from a guard rated at about 60 to a guard rated around 63 in the league by PFF. My eyeball rating, we went from dog shit to dog shit. Dog shit is getting us by. In the end, both suck ****ing ass. Both suck so much ass that they both need to be replaced. I don't get the love affair for Jeff "Turnstile" Allen, he blows. Just because the guy taking his place now sucks even more, doesn't make Allen any good.