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Old 12-14-2015, 11:42 AM  
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Pete Rose ban from baseball remains in place
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The lifetime ban of Major League Baseball career hits leader Pete Rose remains in place, as commissioner Rob Manfred has chosen to keep Rose's banishment in place for gambling on baseball.

MLB said in a statement that Manfred contacted Rose on Monday to inform him of the decision.

Rose and Manfred met in MLB's offices in Manhattan in September, and the commissioner had said he would make a decision on Rose by the end of 2015.

Rose, who was banned from baseball in 1989 after the league's investigation into his gambling, applied for reinstatement for a second time in March. Manfred took over as MLB commissioner in January.

For almost 15 years after being banned, Rose denied he bet on baseball. In 2004, he changed his tune, saying he did so only when managing the Cincinnati Reds.

An Outside the Lines report earlier this year produced documentation from one of Rose's former associates that cataloged his bets in 1986, when he was still playing. Rose's attorney said at the time that his client wouldn't comment as he was in the process of reinstatement, and Rose has not commented on the matter since.

Sources told Quinn it was extremely unlikely all along, even before the Outside the Lines report, that Rose would be reinstated. MLB officials had no sense that Rose had "reconfigured" his life.

Rose passed Ty Cobb as career hits leader with No. 4,192 on Sept. 11, 1985, and he finished his career with 4,256 hits. Rose played for the Reds from 1963 to 1978 and 1984 to 1986, acting as both a player and a manager from 1984 to 1986 and continuing as just a manager until 1989.

He first applied for reinstatement in September 1997 and met with then-commissioner Bud Selig in November 2002, but Selig never ruled on Rose's application.

The continued punishment means Rose cannot be considered for induction into the Baseball Hall of Fame.
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:15 AM   #61
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Lol, funny response.
Well, he hasn't.
The HOF has made the decision to make him ineligible, not MLB.
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:17 AM   #62
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:31 AM   #63
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Who cares? Just let the guy in. He never bet against his team. He's one of the best hitters of all time. Just let him in. If it were steroids I'd be less sympathetic, but come on.
No. This goes to the integrity of the game, and MLB is completely justified in banning him forever.

The part you're missing is that when a major league manager bets on games involving his team, it affects the integrity of the game even if he never bets against his team. Here's just one example: Let's say Rose bet $10,000 on his team to win Saturday's game. His closer gets a save on Thursday. Friday night's game is close, and Rose could easily decide not to use his closer on Friday because he wants to save him for the big money game on Saturday. He's not doing everything he can to win on Friday because he has a big bet on Saturday's game.

Plus, how the **** do you know he never bet against his team? Because HE says so? You're taking his word for it, even though he lied his ass off for nearly 30 years about the whole thing.

Rose's biggest problem is that he's an arrogant asshole who thinks the rules don't apply to him. **** him.
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:33 AM   #64
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The most frustrating part for Pete Rose is that he's got a $25,000 bet with Vegas that he'll be reinstated.

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Old 12-15-2015, 07:34 AM   #65
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Rose belongs in the Hall of Fame as a player. It has never been proven that he threw a game because of gambling. The others messed with the integrity of the game by either throwing games for financial gain or enhancing their performance through the use of PEDs.
Rose is not even close to being the best player of all time. Rose had great longevity. He was a singles hitter. He's the same player as Rod Carew and about 50 other guys who hit .300 with no power. The only difference is that Pete Rose lasted longer.
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:36 AM   #66
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So, retired players aren't allowed to gamble either?
Not when they are actively managing an MLB team.
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:42 AM   #67
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Not when they are actively managing an MLB team.
I meant in general. They can't gamble when they are no longer active in baseball, playing or otherwise?
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Old 12-15-2015, 09:25 AM   #68
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I meant in general. They can't gamble when they are no longer active in baseball, playing or otherwise?
I think it's probably not a big deal for most former players.

But when you've been given a lifetime ban for gambling and lying your ass off about it for 30 years, it's not a good look. The only reason he finally admitted it a few years ago was to sell more copies of his book.
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Old 12-15-2015, 09:34 AM   #69
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Does anyone really give a shit what Rose did 30 years ago? Let him in and stop acting baseball players are some elite group of nuns that do no wrong. It's stupid how the old farts writing about baseball treat the stupid HOF like only choir boys are in it.
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Old 12-15-2015, 09:43 AM   #70
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No. This goes to the integrity of the game, and MLB is completely justified in banning him forever.



The part you're missing is that when a major league manager bets on games involving his team, it affects the integrity of the game even if he never bets against his team. Here's just one example: Let's say Rose bet $10,000 on his team to win Saturday's game. His closer gets a save on Thursday. Friday night's game is close, and Rose could easily decide not to use his closer on Friday because he wants to save him for the big money game on Saturday. He's not doing everything he can to win on Friday because he has a big bet on Saturday's game.



Plus, how the **** do you know he never bet against his team? Because HE says so? You're taking his word for it, even though he lied his ass off for nearly 30 years about the whole thing.



Rose's biggest problem is that he's an arrogant asshole who thinks the rules don't apply to him. **** him.

Agreed.

Pete Rose can **** right off.
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Old 12-15-2015, 09:53 AM   #71
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Well, he hasn't.
The HOF has made the decision to make him ineligible, not MLB.
I know, I just found the way you quoted and replied funny. It was a compliment, I was actually pissed when I realized it was you I was laughing at. I ****ing hate you as a person but you're still funny as shit sometimes.
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Old 12-15-2015, 10:06 AM   #72
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I think more than any major sport, baseball is about statistics...HR's, RBI's, batting averages, etc. PED's and the like make it so players like Bonds could extend their careers, thus enhancing their stats. It clouds the picture on which players were the greatest...and stats are really the only way you could compare the players of yester-year with today's players...faulty comparison or not.
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Old 12-15-2015, 01:55 PM   #73
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Apparently Pete Rose lied again to the commish.

(paraphrase) Commish asked him if he was still betting on baseball and Rose said "No".

later in meeting he spoke up and said that he need to amend what he said and went on to say that he's not betting on baseball "illegally" but he was now betting legally.




holy crap, Rose is an idiot ... he just can't stop.
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Old 12-15-2015, 02:07 PM   #74
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Does anyone really give a shit what Rose did 30 years ago? Let him in and stop acting baseball players are some elite group of nuns that do no wrong. It's stupid how the old farts writing about baseball treat the stupid HOF like only choir boys are in it.
I would think that the policy is not so much about punishing Pete Rose at this point, and is more about keeping a bright line drawn to keep current and future players from crossing it.
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Pete Rose is so incredibly overrated. He played 20+ years and racked up a shit ton of base hits to get the hit record. That's great and all, but to even mentioned his name in the "GOAT" discussion is pretty embarrassing.
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