Chiefs Defense is a Fraud - Page 5

jspchief · 01-16-2016, 05:40 PM

Benefitted from playing garbage teams and 3rd string qbs.

I knew our offense was mediocre but shame on me for buying into the D.

**cdcox** · 01-16-2016, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Cd has it right.

This is where having those safeties having to cover hurt

I don't think any team in the NFL has enough press corners to match up with that. Building your roster to hold the Pats under 20 isn't going to be an achievable goal or a winning strategy, IMO.

WilliamTheIrish · 01-16-2016, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Houston wouldn't matter. Brady releases the ball too quick and our secondary can't cover these guys.

He's just that good.

PA Chiefs · 01-16-2016, 07:10 PM

They have 2 slot receivers that are quick running short quick routes they revolutionized football again with this. How to do you put your guys that play outside 90% of the time to play slot. They are unbelievable for the last 10+ years.

Coochie liquor · 01-16-2016, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Held the Pats to the second-fewest points they scored at home all season.

Without our edge pressure players.

Even when losing the turnover battle.

The real problem was dropping three potential INTs, two of which would have gone the other way for 6.

Patriots were the better team today -- they earned it. But not ready to start crapping on my team because we lost.

This

Red Dawg · 01-16-2016, 07:28 PM

Pass rush went dead. That was a problem all night. They just couldn't get him.

Pasta Little Brioni · 01-16-2016, 11:48 PM

Lightning quick release with super quick receivers will do that. At some point your offense has to step up.

Hammock Parties · 01-16-2016, 11:51 PM

may be truth in this...the best offense we beat all year was 13th (BUF) and they put 22 on us at Arrowhead.

I am hoping for a more balanced team in 2016. D gets a little better and O gets a LOT better.

Strongside · 01-16-2016, 11:52 PM

Defense is not a fraud.

Houston is a pussy.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 01-16-2016, 11:56 PM

And this is why you don't commit QB money to a guy like Houston who doesn't play 1/3 of the season...

We rewarded him for sacks against mediocre offenses last season. He's a 14 mil/year type of guy at the most. He is NOT JJ Watt as seen by his absence.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 01-16-2016, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

He's just that good.

You mean Edelman is that good at getting yards after catch...

hitchief · 01-17-2016, 12:00 AM

The D didn't lose the game but played its part for sure. I give equal blame to lousy game plan by Sutton, the dropped int's and the injuries.

Then on O, equal parts Maclin injury thus Pats take away Kelce, the Davis fumble, Wilso etiher not getting out of bounds or scoing (can he extend his arms or not?) and Andy's lack of clock management.

With all of that we were in this game on the road against a team that was rested and relatively healthy and a coaching staff who had extra time to plan.

Good step forward this year and really think Dorsey will do another great job of getting a few more pieces to make a SB run next year

Strongside · 01-17-2016, 12:01 AM

Edelman didn't have many YAC today. He was simply given too much cushion at the LOS on just about every play. Sutton is to blame for that. And he never made any adjustments. It was like, hey, here's a free 7 yards.

Vietnam58 · 01-17-2016, 12:08 AM

I think the first Pats drive just took the heart out of the Chiefs D .. they were playing on their heals the rest of the game. . didnt see anyone being aggressive or playing with any emotion . .

they looked like a scared group that knew they were playing a superior team. .

def a winable game. . but at least it was a normal lose. . it wasnt a typical Chiefs rip your heart out loss

Just Passin' By · 01-17-2016, 01:22 AM

Brady has been to the AFCCG 10 times in 14 healthy seasons. Brady did to the Chiefs what Brady did to the Seahawks in the 4th quarter in last season's Super Bowl.

This game didn't show that the Chiefs defense is a fraud. It showed, once again, that Brady's the greatest QB to ever play the game. The Chiefs won 11 straight this year, won a playoff game, and will probably win the AFCW next year.

Today, the Chiefs lost to the better team, and the best QB. There's no shame in that.

temper11 · 01-17-2016, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Nah we just don't have Houston I still have faith in our defense I have none in our offense with smith

So defense gets a pass because no Houston, but its all on smith even though offense is without maclin, Charles, Morse, ldt, ware and is heavily relying on avant and Davis?

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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4280478	may be truth in this...the best offense we beat all year was 13th (BUF) and they put 22 on us at Arrowhead. I am hoping for a more balanced team in 2016. D gets a little better and O gets a LOT better.
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TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	And this is why you don't commit QB money to a guy like Houston who doesn't play 1/3 of the season... We rewarded him for sacks against mediocre offenses last season. He's a 14 mil/year type of guy at the most. He is NOT JJ Watt as seen by his absence.
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01-17-2016, 12:00 AM	#71
hitchief Starter Join Date: Apr 2013 Casino cash: $10005314	The D didn't lose the game but played its part for sure. I give equal blame to lousy game plan by Sutton, the dropped int's and the injuries. Then on O, equal parts Maclin injury thus Pats take away Kelce, the Davis fumble, Wilso etiher not getting out of bounds or scoing (can he extend his arms or not?) and Andy's lack of clock management. With all of that we were in this game on the road against a team that was rested and relatively healthy and a coaching staff who had extra time to plan. Good step forward this year and really think Dorsey will do another great job of getting a few more pieces to make a SB run next year
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01-17-2016, 12:01 AM	#72
Strongside Mahomes or GTFO Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: KC Casino cash: $5734282	Edelman didn't have many YAC today. He was simply given too much cushion at the LOS on just about every play. Sutton is to blame for that. And he never made any adjustments. It was like, hey, here's a free 7 yards. __________________
Posts: 13,201

01-17-2016, 12:08 AM	#73
Vietnam58 Starter Join Date: Jan 2013 Casino cash: $10006465	I think the first Pats drive just took the heart out of the Chiefs D .. they were playing on their heals the rest of the game. . didnt see anyone being aggressive or playing with any emotion . . they looked like a scared group that knew they were playing a superior team. . def a winable game. . but at least it was a normal lose. . it wasnt a typical Chiefs rip your heart out loss
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01-17-2016, 01:22 AM	#74
Just Passin' By In Search of a Life Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $5460524	Brady has been to the AFCCG 10 times in 14 healthy seasons. Brady did to the Chiefs what Brady did to the Seahawks in the 4th quarter in last season's Super Bowl. This game didn't show that the Chiefs defense is a fraud. It showed, once again, that Brady's the greatest QB to ever play the game. The Chiefs won 11 straight this year, won a playoff game, and will probably win the AFCW next year. Today, the Chiefs lost to the better team, and the best QB. There's no shame in that.
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