Misc Hypothetical: You and the Vietnam Draft - Page 5

**Rain Man** · 06-14-2016, 10:28 PM

Fairplay and I had a conversation about this a while back. If you were 20 years old when the Vietnam draft lottery was started, what would have been your fate? Walk through the process and tell me if you would've been drafted.

(If you actually went through this process and I'm missing anything, correct me.)

Step 1. Do you get the letter telling you that you've been drafted?

They drew birthdays out of a hat, and you got drafted in the order in which your birthday was drawn. Look up your birthday here. According to the Selective Service website https://www.sss.gov/About/History-And-Records/lotter1, you got a draft letter if your number was 195 or lower.

Spoiler!

Next, you showed up and got classified. Enclosed here are the classifications. The numbers are a little bit apples and oranges, but as far as I can tell, you had about a 1 in 6 chance of ending up in uniform if your draft number got called. Most people apparently got a classification that exempted them from service.

Here are the classifications.

Spoiler!

So would you have ended up in uniform?

As for me, I would've not even been close. My birthday drew Draft Number 363, so I wouldn't have even come into question. Even if I had been drafted, at age 20 I would've had a college student deferment and been a 1S. War? What war?

listopencil · 06-15-2016, 03:14 PM

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Had fun, left. Did not appreciate the lack of females.

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I understand this part completely.

I did not fully appreciate at that early age how shitty life is without women around.

ROYC75 · 06-15-2016, 03:22 PM

204, I was always an unlucky basturd back then so they would have taken my ass since, I was first born son with a brother 2 yrs behind me and some other asshole somewhere failing his examination.

I damn near enlisted in 1975 anyways. Back in the early 70's I always feared and thought I would end up there.

Frosty · 06-15-2016, 03:53 PM

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I joined the US Naval Reserve while in High School under the Delayed Entry Program. I went to Boot Camp for Summer vacation in between 11th and 12th grade. I went into active duty (training first) immediately after High School. My contract required that I serve a specific amount of active duty. I completed that requirement (actually got held over for a bit) before I turned 21 and was Honorably Discharged into reserve status because I had reached my End of Obligated Active Duty. A few years later I was also released from my reserve obligation. So, to answer the question posed in your OP, technically I was already discharged while 20 years old.

That's how I did the National Guard. Basic training between my junior and senior year (when I was 17) and then AIT after I graduated. I didn't have to do any active duty time outside of training, though. Six years of one weekend a month and two weeks in the summer.

ghak99 · 06-15-2016, 03:56 PM

It looks like I would have been left at home.

I was probably flunking a Chem class under a foreign speaking professor at that age though. They probably could have easily convinced me that going to war was better than sitting through his lectures.

DeepPurple · 06-15-2016, 04:16 PM

I don't post much on here anymore, but I haven't thought about the Army and the draft and college in a long time. So I'll gather my thoughts for my own benefit and if you find it interesting, then great.

I was born in 1950 and graduated from St. Petersburg High, Florida in 1968. My birthday was July 10, so my lottery number was 284, that number was in the range of not being called.

I didn't have a problem with the military, my dad joined the Navy at the end of WWII and my half brother was in paratroopers in the early 60's but he had gotten out. I didn't know what I wanted to do, so I enrolled at St. Pete JC and took Hotel/Restaurant Mgmt and had the 2S deferrment in addition to the high draft number. I figured in Florida there would be an endless supply of jobs in that field. One sidenote, when I was looking at the SPJC handbook, under famous alumni was a picture of Jim Morrison leading against a wall. He spent a short time there and at Florida State.

After one year of school and working in restaurants and a Holiday Inn, I realized I didn't like going home at the end of the day smelling like food. My second year I started and Disney World was anticipating opening soon and had recuiters interviewing us. I had an interested in aviation for a few years before, so I started taking private pilot lessons. They weren't expensive then, $21 an hour including the instructor. So I had to decide then, take a job with Disney or keep up the flying lessons. I dropped out of JC and continued the lessons.

I was a little frustrated that it was taking so long to get my license and I had heard about the WOFT program (Warrant Office Flight Training) to fly helicopters in the Army. In fact, the Army was the only branch that didn't require a pilot to have a college degree. I went to the Army recruiter and he said there was a years' wait WOFT, so I signed up for that.

A month later my flight instructor took me up in a control tower to see what it was like. I immediately liked the job, the close interaction they were working under and speaking fast and precise, I was also thought about being a disc jockey when I was younger, so this seemed even cooler.

I went back to my Army recruiter and said, can you get me into Air Traffic Controller school. He said, I can guarantee you the school and get you a starting date and it's ony a 3 years enlistment. I went to the Navy, Air Force and Marines just to make sure I was getting the best deal. They all wanted a 4 year enlistment and wouldn't guarantee the school, but rather I pick 3 schools and sometime during basic they would inform me of their decision.

Back to the Army I went and enlisted. My recruiter was very sharp. He sent me to McDill AFB in Tampa for a class 2 flight physical. This was very important I later found out, many other soldiers didn't get their flight physical until after basic training and were at ATC school. Some fluke out and then you can't go to the school and you have to choose between another school, falling back to a 2 year obligation and have the Army choose your school or taking an eroneous enlistment discharge, and if you had served less than 180 days your name went back into the draft.

I enlisted in Jacksonville, Florida. Went to basic at Ft. Polk, LA and school at Ft. Rucker, Alabama. I was honor graduate of my class of 24 soldiers, that got me a promotion to E-4. I had incentive, if you fail ATC school, they sent you to door gunner school on Hueys.

I had orders for Vietnam on Oct 5, 1970 and went to 3 day Orientation class only to be told the day I was to leave that my orders were cancelled. As it turned out they didn't send anyone anywhere for a month. The school had to close because we were still in the bunks. After a month we had 120 graduates of ATC school and they came out and said, everyone is going to Korea. We were the first class in two years that didn't go to Vietnam.

On my way to Korea I stopped in Baltimore for a week. Went to Loyola College and saw the Guess Who, which had the #1 song 'No Time' and before that American Woman and These Eyes. Went to a Baltimore Colts game and saw a 10-10 tie with Buffalo. Flew to Seattle and spent 3 days in a reception station. Seeing Mt. Ranier for the first time was really impressive for a person who grew up in florida.

We boarded a Continental Airline Charter and took off from McCord AFB at midnight and landed in Hawaii at 5am, then got to sit in the cockpit for an hour and watch the Island of Guam appear, then we landed in Guam and then Tokyo and finally Seoul, Korea. I spent 13 months on the DMZ of Korea working Helicopters at a small airfield 4 miles from the fence. I was promoted to E-5 after 14 months and was made site chief. I actually got hostile fire pay while there and many years later I've got a 40% disability from the VA for Agent Orange. They sprayed AO in the DMZ from 1969 to 1971. I ETS from the Army 3 years later and a year after that went to work for the FAA as an Air Traffic Controller.

My draft number was 284, my company in Korea was The 284th Air Traffic Control Company and when I returned from Korea I was assigned to Hunter AAF in Savannah, Georgia. I got an apartment off base and my apartment was number 284.

**sd4chiefs** · 06-15-2016, 04:20 PM

I was a freshman in college in 1972. I drew 280. Lucky me. My roommate got 50. He ended up dropping out and joining the national guard.

listopencil · 06-15-2016, 04:21 PM

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That's how I did the National Guard. Basic training between my junior and senior year (when I was 17) and then AIT after I graduated. I didn't have to do any active duty time outside of training, though. Six years of one weekend a month and two weeks in the summer.

Yeah, very similar, but my contract had an active duty requirement.

tiptap · 06-15-2016, 05:40 PM

So the most interesting thing about that first lottery draft is how it has become a classic study in statistics.

HonestChieffan · 06-15-2016, 05:43 PM

I was 1A. I was given permission to leave the country by the draft board to go to Denmark as an exchange student. Had to call the embassy every week and report in. The lottery for my age group was in July as I recall and my contact said to listen to it on AFR. They drew Nov 27 as number 178. The next week when I called in he said not to call back unless I was in trouble or a family emergency, that my draft board would not get that high. That was 71. Nixon got us out in 72.

Wierd time. Both brothers were low numbers and called up but turned away because they were Veternarians and they didn't need more vets/Captains.

KChiefs1 · 06-15-2016, 05:47 PM

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Dayze · 06-15-2016, 06:08 PM

227. So if I'm reading things right, I wouldn't have been drafted?
Despite running a 4.23/40

Hog's Gone Fishin · 06-15-2016, 06:14 PM

I would have been disqualified as I had been diagnosed with massive penisitis/CP

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-15-2016, 06:48 PM

I would have been drafted (142), but would have been in college.

Spott · 06-15-2016, 06:59 PM

I was #290 and enrolled in college so I wouldn't have had to go. It's easy to say as an adult that I would have gone if they chose me, but I was a rebellious little smart ass at that age that knew everything and weighed about 140lbs soaking wet, so I could have seen myself doing something to try and get out of it if I was around back then.

06-14-2016, 10:28 PM
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $2948491 VARSITY	Hypothetical: You and the Vietnam Draft Fairplay and I had a conversation about this a while back. If you were 20 years old when the Vietnam draft lottery was started, what would have been your fate? Walk through the process and tell me if you would've been drafted. (If you actually went through this process and I'm missing anything, correct me.) Step 1. Do you get the letter telling you that you've been drafted? They drew birthdays out of a hat, and you got drafted in the order in which your birthday was drawn. Look up your birthday here. According to the Selective Service website https://www.sss.gov/About/History-And-Records/lotter1, you got a draft letter if your number was 195 or lower. Spoiler! Sep 14 1 Apr 24 2 Dec 30 3 Feb 14 4 Oct 18 5 Sep 6* 6 Oct 26 7 Sep 7* 8 Nov 22 9 Dec 6* 10 Aug 31 11 Dec 7* 12 Jul 8* 13 Apr 11 14 Jul 12 15 Dec 29 16 Jan 15 17 Sep 26 18 Nov 1* 19 Jun 4* 20 Aug 10 21 Jun 26 22 Jul 24 23 Oct 5* 24 Feb 19 25 Dec 14 26 Jul 21 27 Jun 5* 28 Mar 2* 29 Mar 31 30 May 24 31 Apr 1* 32 Mar 17 33 Nov 2* 34 May 7* 35 Aug 24 36 May 11 37 Oct 30 38 Dec 11 39 May 3* 40 Dec 10 41 Jul 13 42 Dec 9* 43 Aug 16 44 Aug 2* 45 Nov 11 46 Nov 27 47 Aug 8* 48 Sep 3* 49 Jul 7* 50 Nov 7* 51 Jan 25 52 Dec 22 53 Aug 5* 54 May 16 55 Dec 5* 56 Feb 23 57 Jan 19 58 Jan 24 59 Jun 21 60 Aug 29 61 Apr 21 62 Sep 20 63 Jun 27 64 May 10 65 Nov 12 66 Jul 25 67 Feb 12 68 Jun 13 69 Dec 21 70 Sep 10 71 Oct 12 72 Jun 17 73 Apr 27 74 May 19 75 Nov 6* 76 Jan 28 77 Dec 27 78 Oct 31 79 Nov 9* 80 Apr 4* 81 Sep 5* 82 Apr 3* 83 Dec 25 84 Jun 7* 85 Feb 1* 86 Oct 6* 87 Jul 28 88 Feb 15 89 Apr 18 90 Feb 7* 91 Jan 26 92 Jul 1* 93 Oct 28 94 Dec 24 95 Dec 16 96 Nov 8* 97 Jul 17 98 Nov 29 99 Dec 31 100 Jan 5* 101 Aug 15 102 May 30 103 Jun 19 104 Dec 8* 105 Aug 9* 106 Nov 16 107 Mar 1* 108 Jun 23 109 Jun 6* 110 Aug 1* 111 May 17 112 Sep 15 113 Aug 6* 114 Jul 3* 115 Aug 23 116 Oct 22 117 Jan 23 118 Sep 23 119 Jul 16 120 Jan 16 121 Mar 7* 122 Dec 28 123 Apr 13 124 Oct 2* 125 Nov 13 126 Nov 14 127 Dec 18 128 Dec 1* 129 May 15 130 Nov 15 131 Nov 25 132 May 12 133 Jun 11 134 Dec 20 135 Mar 11 136 Jun 25 137 Oct 13 138 Mar 6* 139 Jan 18 140 Aug 18 141 Aug 12 142 Nov 17 143 Feb 2* 144 Aug 4* 145 Nov 18 146 Apr 7* 147 Apr 16 148 Sep 25 149 Feb 11 150 Sep 29 151 Feb 13 152 Jul 22 153 Aug 17 154 May 6* 155 Nov 21 156 Dec 3* 157 Sep 11 158 Jan 2* 159 Sep 22 160 Sep 2* 161 Dec 23 162 Dec 13 163 Jan 30 164 Dec 4* 165 Mar 16 166 Aug 28 167 Aug 7* 168 Mar 15 169 Mar 26 170 Oct 15 171 Jul 23 172 Dec 26 173 Nov 30 174 Sep 13 175 Oct 25 176 Sep 19 177 May 14 178 Feb 25 179 Jun 15 180 Feb 8* 181 Nov 23 182 May 20 183 Sep 8* 184 Nov 20 185 Jan 21 186 Jul 20 187 Jul 5* 188 Feb 17 189 Jul 18 190 Apr 29 191 Oct 20 192 Jul 31 193 Jan 9* 194 Sep 24 195 Oct 24 196 May 9* 197 Aug 14 198 Jan 8* 199 Mar 19 200 Oct 23 201 Oct 4* 202 Nov 19 203 Sep 21 204 Feb 27 205 Jun 10 206 Sep 16 207 Apr 30 208 Jun 30 209 Feb 4* 210 Jan 31 211 Feb 16 212 Mar 8* 213 Feb 5* 214 Jan 4* 215 Feb 10 216 Mar 30 217 Apr 10 218 Apr 9* 219 Oct 10 220 Jan 12 221 Jun 28 222 Mar 28 223 Jan 6* 224 Sep 1* 225 May 29 226 Jul 19 227 Jun 2* 228 Oct 29 229 Nov 24 230 Apr 14 231 Sep 4* 232 Sep 27 233 Oct 7* 234 Jan 17 235 Feb 24 236 Oct 11 237 Jan 14 238 Mar 20 239 Dec 19 240 Oct 19 241 Sep 12 242 Oct 21 243 Oct 3* 244 Aug 26 245 Sep 18 246 Jun 22 247 Jul 11 248 Jun 1* 249 May 21 250 Jan 3* 251 Apr 23 252 Apr 6* 253 Oct 16 254 Sep 17 255 Mar 23 256 Sep 28 257 Mar 24 258 Mar 13 259 Apr 17 260 Aug 3* 261 Apr 28 262 Sep 9* 263 Oct 27 264 Mar 22 265 Nov 4* 266 Mar 3* 267 Mar 27 268 Apr 5* 269 Jul 29 270 Apr 2* 271 Jun 12 272 Apr 15 273 Jun 16 274 Mar 4* 275 May 4* 276 Jul 9* 277 May 18 278 Jul 4* 279 Jan 20 280 Nov 28 281 Nov 10 282 Oct 8* 283 Jul 10 284 Feb 29 285 Aug 25 286 Jul 30 287 Oct 17 288 Jul 27 289 Feb 22 290 Aug 21 291 Feb 18 292 Mar 5* 293 Oct 14 294 May 13 295 May 27 296 Feb 3* 297 May 2* 298 Feb 28 299 Mar 12 300 Jun 3* 301 Feb 20 302 Jul 26 303 Dec 17 304 Jan 1* 305 Jan 7* 306 Aug 13 307 May 28 308 Nov 26 309 Nov 5* 310 Aug 19 311 Apr 8* 312 May 31 313 Dec 12 314 Sep 30 315 Apr 22 316 Mar 9* 317 Jan 13 318 May 23 319 Dec 15 320 May 8* 321 Jul 15 322 Mar 10 323 Aug 11 324 Jan 10 325 May 22 326 Jul 6* 327 Dec 2* 328 Jan 11 329 May 1* 330 Jul 14 331 Mar 18 332 Aug 30 333 Mar 21 334 Jun 9* 335 Apr 19 336 Jan 22 337 Feb 9* 338 Aug 22 339 Apr 26 340 Jun 18 341 Oct 9* 342 Mar 25 343 Aug 20 344 Apr 20 345 Apr 12 346 Feb 6* 347 Nov 3* 348 Jan 29 349 Jul 2* 350 Apr 25 351 Aug 27 352 Jun 29 353 Mar 14 354 Jan 27 355 Jun 14 356 May 26 357 Jun 24 358 Oct 1* 359 Jun 20 360 May 25 361 Mar 29 362 Feb 21 363 May 5* 364 Feb 26 365 Jun 8* 366 Next, you showed up and got classified. Enclosed here are the classifications. The numbers are a little bit apples and oranges, but as far as I can tell, you had about a 1 in 6 chance of ending up in uniform if your draft number got called. Most people apparently got a classification that exempted them from service. Here are the classifications. Spoiler! 1-A - Available for military service. 1-AM - Medical specialist available for military service. 1-A-O - Conscientious Objector - Conscientiously opposed to training and military service requiring the use of arms - fulfills his service obligation in a noncombatant position within the military. Those classified 1-A-O are conscientious objectors available for noncombatant military service. 1-A-OM - Medical specialist conscientious objector available for noncombatant military service. 1-C - Member of the Armed Forces of the United States, the Coast and Geodetic Survey, or the Public Health Service. (Enl) - enlisted; (Ind) - inducted; (Dis) - discharged 1-D - Member of a Reserve component or student taking military training. 1-H - Registrant not currently subject to processing for induction or alternative service. Note: Within the cessation of registrant processing in 1976, all registrants (except for a few alleged violators of the Military Selective Service Act) were classified 1-H regardless of any previous classification. 1-O - Conscientious objector available for civilian work contributing to the national health, safety or interest. 1-OM - Medical specialist conscientious objector available for civilian work contributing to the national health, safety or interest. 1-S - Student deferred by statue - (H) high school; (C) college. 1-W - Conscientious objector performing civilian work in the national health, safety or interest. (Rel) - Released. 1-Y - Registrant qualified for service only in time of war or national emergency. Note: The 1-Y classification was abolished December 10, 1971. Local boards were subsequently instructed to reclassify all 1-Y registrants by administrative action. 2-A - Registrant deferred because of civilian occupation (except agriculture). 2-AM - Medical specialist deferred because of critical community need involving patient care. 2-C - Registrant deferred because of agricultural occupation. 2-D - Ministerial Students - Deferred from military service. 2-M - Registrant deferred for medical study. 2-S - Registrant deferred because of activity in study. 3-A - Hardship Deferment - Deferred from military service because service would cause hardship upon his family. 4-A - Registrant who has completed service; or sole surviving son. 4-B - Official deferred by law. 4-C - Alien or Dual National - Sometimes exempt from military service. 4-D - Ministers of Religion - Exempted from military service. 4-E - Conscientious objector opposed to both combatant and noncombatant training and service. 4-F - Registrant not qualified for military service. (Current physical causes of being classified as a 4f are found here, beginning with Section 2.3 on page 4 - http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r40_501.pdf 4-FM - Medical specialist not qualified for military service. 4-G - Sole surviving son. (Parent or sibling killed in the military) 4-W - Conscientious objector who has completed civilian alternate service. 5-A - Registrant over the age of liability for military service. So would you have ended up in uniform? As for me, I would've not even been close. My birthday drew Draft Number 363, so I wouldn't have even come into question. Even if I had been drafted, at age 20 I would've had a college student deferment and been a 1S. War? What war?
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06-15-2016, 03:56 PM	#64
ghak99 MVP Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $1552250	It looks like I would have been left at home. I was probably flunking a Chem class under a foreign speaking professor at that age though. They probably could have easily convinced me that going to war was better than sitting through his lectures.
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06-15-2016, 04:16 PM	#65
DeepPurple I could of gone pro Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Villages, Florida Casino cash: $10005676	I don't post much on here anymore, but I haven't thought about the Army and the draft and college in a long time. So I'll gather my thoughts for my own benefit and if you find it interesting, then great. I was born in 1950 and graduated from St. Petersburg High, Florida in 1968. My birthday was July 10, so my lottery number was 284, that number was in the range of not being called. I didn't have a problem with the military, my dad joined the Navy at the end of WWII and my half brother was in paratroopers in the early 60's but he had gotten out. I didn't know what I wanted to do, so I enrolled at St. Pete JC and took Hotel/Restaurant Mgmt and had the 2S deferrment in addition to the high draft number. I figured in Florida there would be an endless supply of jobs in that field. One sidenote, when I was looking at the SPJC handbook, under famous alumni was a picture of Jim Morrison leading against a wall. He spent a short time there and at Florida State. After one year of school and working in restaurants and a Holiday Inn, I realized I didn't like going home at the end of the day smelling like food. My second year I started and Disney World was anticipating opening soon and had recuiters interviewing us. I had an interested in aviation for a few years before, so I started taking private pilot lessons. They weren't expensive then, $21 an hour including the instructor. So I had to decide then, take a job with Disney or keep up the flying lessons. I dropped out of JC and continued the lessons. I was a little frustrated that it was taking so long to get my license and I had heard about the WOFT program (Warrant Office Flight Training) to fly helicopters in the Army. In fact, the Army was the only branch that didn't require a pilot to have a college degree. I went to the Army recruiter and he said there was a years' wait WOFT, so I signed up for that. A month later my flight instructor took me up in a control tower to see what it was like. I immediately liked the job, the close interaction they were working under and speaking fast and precise, I was also thought about being a disc jockey when I was younger, so this seemed even cooler. I went back to my Army recruiter and said, can you get me into Air Traffic Controller school. He said, I can guarantee you the school and get you a starting date and it's ony a 3 years enlistment. I went to the Navy, Air Force and Marines just to make sure I was getting the best deal. They all wanted a 4 year enlistment and wouldn't guarantee the school, but rather I pick 3 schools and sometime during basic they would inform me of their decision. Back to the Army I went and enlisted. My recruiter was very sharp. He sent me to McDill AFB in Tampa for a class 2 flight physical. This was very important I later found out, many other soldiers didn't get their flight physical until after basic training and were at ATC school. Some fluke out and then you can't go to the school and you have to choose between another school, falling back to a 2 year obligation and have the Army choose your school or taking an eroneous enlistment discharge, and if you had served less than 180 days your name went back into the draft. I enlisted in Jacksonville, Florida. Went to basic at Ft. Polk, LA and school at Ft. Rucker, Alabama. I was honor graduate of my class of 24 soldiers, that got me a promotion to E-4. I had incentive, if you fail ATC school, they sent you to door gunner school on Hueys. I had orders for Vietnam on Oct 5, 1970 and went to 3 day Orientation class only to be told the day I was to leave that my orders were cancelled. As it turned out they didn't send anyone anywhere for a month. The school had to close because we were still in the bunks. After a month we had 120 graduates of ATC school and they came out and said, everyone is going to Korea. We were the first class in two years that didn't go to Vietnam. On my way to Korea I stopped in Baltimore for a week. Went to Loyola College and saw the Guess Who, which had the #1 song 'No Time' and before that American Woman and These Eyes. Went to a Baltimore Colts game and saw a 10-10 tie with Buffalo. Flew to Seattle and spent 3 days in a reception station. Seeing Mt. Ranier for the first time was really impressive for a person who grew up in florida. We boarded a Continental Airline Charter and took off from McCord AFB at midnight and landed in Hawaii at 5am, then got to sit in the cockpit for an hour and watch the Island of Guam appear, then we landed in Guam and then Tokyo and finally Seoul, Korea. I spent 13 months on the DMZ of Korea working Helicopters at a small airfield 4 miles from the fence. I was promoted to E-5 after 14 months and was made site chief. I actually got hostile fire pay while there and many years later I've got a 40% disability from the VA for Agent Orange. They sprayed AO in the DMZ from 1969 to 1971. I ETS from the Army 3 years later and a year after that went to work for the FAA as an Air Traffic Controller. My draft number was 284, my company in Korea was The 284th Air Traffic Control Company and when I returned from Korea I was assigned to Hunter AAF in Savannah, Georgia. I got an apartment off base and my apartment was number 284.
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06-15-2016, 04:20 PM	#66
sd4chiefs error 404 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Bizarro World Casino cash: $8810445	I was a freshman in college in 1972. I drew 280. Lucky me. My roommate got 50. He ended up dropping out and joining the national guard. __________________ “It's Easier to Fool People Than It Is to Convince Them That They Have Been Fooled.” – Mark Twain.
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06-15-2016, 05:40 PM	#68
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06-15-2016, 05:43 PM	#69
HonestChieffan Seeking the Truth daily Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the Country in MO Casino cash: $1854309	I was 1A. I was given permission to leave the country by the draft board to go to Denmark as an exchange student. Had to call the embassy every week and report in. The lottery for my age group was in July as I recall and my contact said to listen to it on AFR. They drew Nov 27 as number 178. The next week when I called in he said not to call back unless I was in trouble or a family emergency, that my draft board would not get that high. That was 71. Nixon got us out in 72. Wierd time. Both brothers were low numbers and called up but turned away because they were Veternarians and they didn't need more vets/Captains. __________________ “Make no mistake. If you try anything to raise the cost of vishessavatubs, I will veto it.” - Joe Biden, SOTU 2023
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06-15-2016, 06:08 PM	#72
Dayze Resident Glue Sniffer Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $4859358	227. So if I'm reading things right, I wouldn't have been drafted? Despite running a 4.23/40 __________________ Life is 99% inspiration, 1% Perspiration, and 1% Attention to Detial. RIP & Godspeed: Saccoppo Lonewolf Ed Fire Me Boy
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06-15-2016, 06:14 PM	#73
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06-15-2016, 06:48 PM	#74
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06-15-2016, 06:59 PM	#75
Spott Court Jester Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Orlando Casino cash: $2712400	I was #290 and enrolled in college so I wouldn't have had to go. It's easy to say as an adult that I would have gone if they chose me, but I was a rebellious little smart ass at that age that knew everything and weighed about 140lbs soaking wet, so I could have seen myself doing something to try and get out of it if I was around back then.
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