Chiefs Pay the man - Page 5

**DaFace** · 12-04-2016, 03:03 PM

I was on the Poe over Berry team prior to the season, but it's undeniable at this point that Berry is a game changer for us, on and off the field. Dorsey needs to get this done.

beach tribe · 12-04-2016, 07:32 PM

Oh, NOW ya'll wanna pay my boy his money.

If 90% of ya's weren't typical highlight groupies who can't see shit, but the ball you'dve known this guy is next level shit. They don't grow dudes like him every day.

That said, he was askin for crazy fn money. The tag actually was the right call.

beach tribe · 12-04-2016, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Are you serious?

There are very few guys who have the awareness or prepare well enough to make those plays Berry did today. Very few guys can shut tight ends down regularly like Berry.

And NO ONE can be a leader like him given everything he's been through.

Dude does it ALL:

Take on T, to seal the edge? Sure.

Shut down a TE? With ease.

Put a RB in concussion protocol?........With pleasure.

His skill set is as rare as they come....

Kiimo · 12-04-2016, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Oh, NOW ya'll wanna pay my boy his money.

If 90% of ya's weren't typical highlight groupies who can't see shit, but the ball you'dve known this guy is next level shit. They don't grow dudes like him every day.

That said, he was askin for crazy fn money. The tag actually was the right call.

10%er checking in.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 12-04-2016, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Dude does it ALL:

Take on T, to seal the edge? Sure.

Shut down a TE? With ease.

Put a RB in concussion protocol?........With pleasure.

His skill set is as rare as they come....

Been on the Berry > Poe side of the argument for awhile now. No slight to Poe, but that back is scary, and the DL depth is there.

Contrary to what some on here would say, there are less Berry-type players in the league than you can count on one hand right now. He's playing at an All-Pro level yet again.

**BossChief** · 12-04-2016, 10:01 PM

Before this year, I said Berry wasn't worth being the highest paid safety in football.

He just wasn't.

This year, though...Berry is on another level.

Is he worth paying 13+m per year, though?

Simply Red · 12-04-2016, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa

$1 billion per year

I agree and offer Powe incentive chitlins on a string.

RunKC · 12-04-2016, 10:14 PM

Chiefs cap in 2017 with rollover doesn't look good. Some changes need to be made

**BigRedChief** · 12-04-2016, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Pay both

Thats not possible in the NFL. We are already paying Houston top 3 money. You cant pay 3 of your defensive players top 5 money and not hurt you in other places. No team has unlimited money, this isn't baseball.

O.city · 12-04-2016, 10:22 PM

Poe isn't getting top 5 $.

With the back issues, I'd tag poe and look to sign Berry

RunKC · 12-04-2016, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Thats not possible in the NFL. We are already paying Houston top 3 money. You cant pay 3 of your defensive players top 5 money and not hurt you in other places. No team has unlimited money, this isn't baseball.

Kendall Reyes is the only player we should keep this offseason outside of Poe/Berry and he'll be cheap.

We have $31 million in the bank in 2018. Dorsey can do what he does with every player he signs: low cap # year 1 with big guaranteed $$.

Here's our 2018 FA list:

Ford (5th year option)
Acker-replaceable
Sherman-maybe a small deal
LDT-replaceable
Fulton-replaceable
JC-can't justify paying him. He looks done
Mauga-replaceable and long gone
Howard-maybe but it's either him or Poe
Gaines-replaceable
Foles-not worth more than a team friendly low cost deal
Colquitt-replaceable but would like to keep on a friendly deal

It's basically just Poe, Berry and Ford the next 2 years.

Foles-$10 million
Colquitt-$4 million
Charles-$7 million
Mauga-$750k
Bray-$1.22 million

About $23 million tied up in these players alone. We have $$.

ToxSocks · 12-04-2016, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Before this year, I said Berry wasn't worth being the highest paid safety in football.

He just wasn't.

This year, though...Berry is on another level.

Is he worth paying 13+m per year, though?

Oh bullshit.

The dude has always been ballin'. He hasn't always been in a position to intercept passes, but the ability was always there. He is a machine in run support and can blow up a play from the other end of the field.

**BigRedChief** · 12-04-2016, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Kendall Reyes is the only player we should keep this offseason outside of Poe/Berry and he'll be cheap.

We have $31 million in the bank in 2018. Dorsey can do what he does with every player he signs: low cap # year 1 with big guaranteed $$.

Here's our 2018 FA list:

Ford (5th year option)
Acker-replaceable
Sherman-maybe a small deal
LDT-replaceable
Fulton-replaceable
JC-can't justify paying him. He looks done
Mauga-replaceable and long gone
Howard-maybe but it's either him or Poe
Gaines-replaceable
Foles-not worth more than a team friendly low cost deal
Colquitt-replaceable but would like to keep on a friendly deal

It's basically just Poe, Berry and Ford the next 2 years.

Foles-$10 million
Colquitt-$4 million
Charles-$7 million
Mauga-$750k
Bray-$1.22 million

About $23 million tied up in these players alone. We have $$.

I agree we have $ but where you spend them is the make or break cap/money for this team.

I talked with Chris Jones's Mom and Dad and agent before the game. They gave us the impression that Poe being gone was a done deal and they were talking long term deal.

**SAUTO** · 12-04-2016, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I agree we have $ but where you spend them is the make or break cap/money for this team.

I talked with Chris Jones's Mom and Dad and agent before the game. They gave us the impression that Poe being gone was a done deal and they were talking long term deal.

They can't talk long term deal for at least two years after this one

ChiefAshhole1056 · 12-05-2016, 01:05 AM

Go watch who has been leading the teams post game huddles these past few weeks. Ask any of the players who they've been rallying behind lately. See who they look up to on a weekly basis.

Berry has become the sole leader of this team, and has been this teams best player this year. Say what you want about positional values, but Berry is one of the most valuable defenders in the league this year with all elements being considered.

Pay the man elite money because he deserves it. Andy has gone out of his way to drop Eric's name in multiple interviews unprompted as well, he knows who runs the locker room and I highly doubt he'll let him go.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 12-05-2016, 01:25 AM

**** Berry
**** Poe

Pay Me goddamit !

Without me you have no bacon.

12-04-2016, 03:03 PM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $1456899	Pay the man I was on the Poe over Berry team prior to the season, but it's undeniable at this point that Berry is a game changer for us, on and off the field. Dorsey needs to get this done.
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12-04-2016, 07:32 PM	#61
beach tribe Keep doubting J MFing Houston Join Date: May 2007 Location: ft.lauderdale Casino cash: $4698036	Oh, NOW ya'll wanna pay my boy his money. If 90% of ya's weren't typical highlight groupies who can't see shit, but the ball you'dve known this guy is next level shit. They don't grow dudes like him every day. That said, he was askin for crazy fn money. The tag actually was the right call.
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12-04-2016, 10:01 PM	#65
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1354088	Before this year, I said Berry wasn't worth being the highest paid safety in football. He just wasn't. This year, though...Berry is on another level. Is he worth paying 13+m per year, though? __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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12-04-2016, 10:14 PM	#67
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $1699611	Chiefs cap in 2017 with rollover doesn't look good. Some changes need to be made __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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12-04-2016, 10:22 PM	#69
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2294064	Poe isn't getting top 5 $. With the back issues, I'd tag poe and look to sign Berry
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12-05-2016, 01:05 AM	#74
ChiefAshhole1056 Veteran Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Austin, TX Casino cash: $6671100	Go watch who has been leading the teams post game huddles these past few weeks. Ask any of the players who they've been rallying behind lately. See who they look up to on a weekly basis. Berry has become the sole leader of this team, and has been this teams best player this year. Say what you want about positional values, but Berry is one of the most valuable defenders in the league this year with all elements being considered. Pay the man elite money because he deserves it. Andy has gone out of his way to drop Eric's name in multiple interviews unprompted as well, he knows who runs the locker room and I highly doubt he'll let him go.
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12-05-2016, 01:25 AM	#75
Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1150477	** Berry ** Poe Pay Me goddamit ! Without me you have no bacon.
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