Chiefs This loss shows deeper problems than a few players - Page 5

Chief Roundup · 11-19-2017, 05:45 PM

The way that we lost this game speaks to more than just a couple of players or plays.
This loss speaks to problems deep within. I think we have severe problems within our coaching staff if not further up than that.
We are spiraling down and it appears to be untenable to the staff we have in place even with the help of a bye week.
I have always been a Reid fan, but a lot of the problems he had in Philly have followed him to KC. His play calling, inadequate game prep, stubbornness, strategy, clock management. His inability to make coaching changes and bring his family in and unwillingness to move on from them when they are obviously not working are problems that we all now face as well. There is a lot of parallels between our staff here and the ones he had in Philly.
If we are to change our losing ways some of this staff is going to have to be replaced. Where do start? Who are the coaches/assistants that need to be replaced? Even now instead of waiting until the off season.

Andy Reid
Head Coach

Brad Childress
Assistant Head Coach

Matt Nagy
Offensive Coordinator

Eric Bieniemy
Running Backs

Andy Heck
Offensive Line

Corey Matthaei
Assistant Quarterbacks (QBs & OL)

Tom Melvin
Tight Ends

Greg Lewis
Wide Receivers

Joe Bleymaier
Offensive Quality Control

Mike Kafka
Offensive Quality Control

Bob Sutton
Defensive Coordinator

Terry Bradden
Defensive Assistant

Mark DeLeone
Assistant Linebackers (Defense)

Gary Gibbs
Linebackers

Al Harris
Secondary/Cornerbacks

Britt Reid
Defensive Line

Mike Smith
Assistant Defensive Line

Emmitt Thomas
Defensive Backs

Dave Toub
Special Teams Coordinator

Rod Wilson
Assistant Special Teams

Tommy Brasher
Special Projects

Rick Burkholder
Head Athletic Trainer

Barry Rubin
Strength and Conditioning

Travis Crittenden
Strength & Conditioning Assistant

Devin Woodhouse
Strength & Conditioning Assistant

Ryan Reynolds
Sports Science/Conditioning

Mike Frazier
Statistical Analysis Coordinator

Black Bob · 11-20-2017, 10:23 AM

The coaches don't play.

The coaches don't have alligator arms either.

**loochy** · 11-20-2017, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by crayzkirk

Good enough for who it's for. People want to get drunk, act like idiots, get into fights, etc. The last time I went to a Chiefs game, I thought I was at a wrestling match.

The fans accept the winning regular season and perpetual mediocrity that comes with ownership hiring fired coaches and benched quarterbacks.

I don't blame Kelce, he got targetted and concussed earlier in the season. There is more to life than football. Good quarterbacks don't throw their players into big collisions.

It's a job to these players, sports have changed because of the huge amounts of money. As long as the stadium is full of fans paying $45 to park and can get as drunk as they want without fear of being pulled over on the way home, this is what I think we will get.

Wow, Arrowhead only costs $45 to park?

lcarus · 11-20-2017, 10:28 AM

Our playcalling is magically reeruned. Gash them for 6 & 13 yards with Kareem Hunt runs? Let's go 5-wide three plays in a row!

BlackHelicopters · 11-20-2017, 02:29 PM

[QUOTE=Chief Roundup;13227228]The way that we lost this game speaks to more than just a couple of players or plays.
This loss speaks to problems deep within. I think we have severe problems within our coaching staff if not further up than that.
We are spiraling down and it appears to be untenable to the staff we have in place even with the help of a bye week.
I have always been a Reid fan, but a lot of the problems he had in Philly have followed him to KC. His play calling, inadequate game prep, stubbornness, strategy, clock management. His inability to make coaching changes and bring his family in and unwillingness to move on from them when they are obviously not working are problems that we all now face as well. There is a lot of parallels between our staff here and the ones he had in Philly.
If we are to change our losing ways some of this staff is going to have to be replaced. Where do start? Who are the coaches/assistants that need to be replaced? Even now instead of waiting until the off season.

The problems start from the lowest janitor to the highest levels. ChUNT is the problem. Dude is an idiot. Also, the NFL is run by the Mafia.

**Iowanian** · 11-20-2017, 02:37 PM

Chopping off a couple of heads this week MIGHT wake this team up.

Arrowhead is a Distribution Center of Disappointment.

Dayze · 11-20-2017, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian

Chopping off a couple of heads this week MIGHT wake this team up.

Arrowhead is a Distribution Center of Disappointment.

good thing we're building a new airport.

Red Dawg · 11-20-2017, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

Keep Toub. Everybody else can go. That goes double for the D coaches.

Toub can walk as well. STs have sucked this season. Flag after flag after flag.

Best22 · 11-20-2017, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg

Toub can walk as well. STs have sucked this season. Flag after flag after flag.

Toub was too busy building HC resumes to worry about preparing his ST unit

11-19-2017, 05:45 PM
Chief Roundup Admitted Planet Junky Join Date: Oct 2000 Casino cash: $-1538373	This loss shows deeper problems than a few players The way that we lost this game speaks to more than just a couple of players or plays. This loss speaks to problems deep within. I think we have severe problems within our coaching staff if not further up than that. We are spiraling down and it appears to be untenable to the staff we have in place even with the help of a bye week. I have always been a Reid fan, but a lot of the problems he had in Philly have followed him to KC. His play calling, inadequate game prep, stubbornness, strategy, clock management. His inability to make coaching changes and bring his family in and unwillingness to move on from them when they are obviously not working are problems that we all now face as well. There is a lot of parallels between our staff here and the ones he had in Philly. If we are to change our losing ways some of this staff is going to have to be replaced. Where do start? Who are the coaches/assistants that need to be replaced? Even now instead of waiting until the off season. Andy Reid Head Coach Brad Childress Assistant Head Coach Matt Nagy Offensive Coordinator Eric Bieniemy Running Backs Andy Heck Offensive Line Corey Matthaei Assistant Quarterbacks (QBs & OL) Tom Melvin Tight Ends Greg Lewis Wide Receivers Joe Bleymaier Offensive Quality Control Mike Kafka Offensive Quality Control Bob Sutton Defensive Coordinator Terry Bradden Defensive Assistant Mark DeLeone Assistant Linebackers (Defense) Gary Gibbs Linebackers Al Harris Secondary/Cornerbacks Britt Reid Defensive Line Mike Smith Assistant Defensive Line Emmitt Thomas Defensive Backs Dave Toub Special Teams Coordinator Rod Wilson Assistant Special Teams Tommy Brasher Special Projects Rick Burkholder Head Athletic Trainer Barry Rubin Strength and Conditioning Travis Crittenden Strength & Conditioning Assistant Devin Woodhouse Strength & Conditioning Assistant Ryan Reynolds Sports Science/Conditioning Mike Frazier Statistical Analysis Coordinator
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11-20-2017, 10:23 AM	#61
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BlackHelicopters Spiraling down the Drain Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Dante's Ninth Circle Casino cash: $-859412	[QUOTE=Chief Roundup;13227228]The way that we lost this game speaks to more than just a couple of players or plays. This loss speaks to problems deep within. I think we have severe problems within our coaching staff if not further up than that. We are spiraling down and it appears to be untenable to the staff we have in place even with the help of a bye week. I have always been a Reid fan, but a lot of the problems he had in Philly have followed him to KC. His play calling, inadequate game prep, stubbornness, strategy, clock management. His inability to make coaching changes and bring his family in and unwillingness to move on from them when they are obviously not working are problems that we all now face as well. There is a lot of parallels between our staff here and the ones he had in Philly. If we are to change our losing ways some of this staff is going to have to be replaced. Where do start? Who are the coaches/assistants that need to be replaced? Even now instead of waiting until the off season. The problems start from the lowest janitor to the highest levels. ChUNT is the problem. Dude is an idiot. Also, the NFL is run by the Mafia. __________________ "We're both part of the same hypocrisy, Senator, but never think it applies to my family." "Fredo. You are my brother, and I love you. But never take sides against the Family again. Ever." 2019 Adopt a Chief - Travis Kelce #87
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