Terez Paylor's Chiefs' Draft Needs

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

I think there will be a lot of teams in the late first that will be looking to sell. Gonna be hard to leverage value.

Well if that's the case, there will be plenty of talent at #32, so they can just sit and take their guy.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Well if that's the case, there will be plenty of talent at #32, so they can just sit and take their guy.

Maybe. I think it's possible Swift, Murray and Queen and both DE's are gone by 32.

What would be the target at that point? I think you can slide down quite a bit and still land either Akers or Dobbins. I'm not high on Delpit like others are. Corner depth is absurd.

I'd probably do it.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

I think there will be a lot of teams in the late first that will be looking to sell. Gonna be hard to leverage value.

Yip

This is calm-before-the-storm period when NFL execs call around trying to gauge trade interest. Hearing many teams in mid-to-late 1st are looking to move down and accumulate Day 2 picks. Feeling is you can get same level of player in 40-60 range as in the 20’s.

— Jim Nagy (@JimNagy_SB) April 17, 2020

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Yip

This is calm-before-the-storm period when NFL execs call around trying to gauge trade interest. Hearing many teams in mid-to-late 1st are looking to move down and accumulate Day 2 picks. Feeling is you can get same level of player in 40-60 range as in the 20’s.

— Jim Nagy (@JimNagy_SB) April 17, 2020

And the further back you are, the harder it’s going to be.

If we trade down it’s going to be for a discount.

The good thing is, if a few trades happen before our pick, somebody exciting could fall into our lap unexpectedly.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by staylor26

And the further back you are, the harder it’s going to be.

If we trade down it’s going to be for a discount.

The good thing is, if a few trades happen before our pick, somebody exciting could fall into our lap unexpectedly.

It really depends on how the board falls, but it will be tough regardless. That’s why I think Veach should take any deal he can get as long as it involves at least a 4th rd pick.

Eason and Hurts are players teams want to get a 5th year option on, but the problem for us is that 2 of the teams that reportedly have strong interest in Hurts are in our division.

[Sassy Squatch]

5th year option is way more valuable than sliding down that far.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

5th year option is way more valuable than sliding down that far.

No, it's really not. Have you read the new CBA?

[DaneMcCloud]

Tua scored a 13 on the Wonderlic test.

I wonder if that will accelerate his fall?

[SBLIVchamps]

I think this draft is going to be wild and the places where kids get drafted will be incredibly wonky compared to where we see them before the draft. If I’m the chiefs, I pray one of Murray/Queen fall in the first. If not, I try to trade back to 34-42 and pick up and additional early 4th). We need to target one of Gay or Brooks later if neither of the first two are available

I’m also of the opinion that because of the depth in offensive talent in the draft, some RBs fall to round 2-3 that wouldn’t normally be there. One or two of swift, dobbins, Taylor or CEH will fall to our 63rd pick. If “our guy” is there at 63, it’s hard to imagine the staff passing on them given the smoke around us wanting to add offensive talent.

CB and OL will be addressed no doubt. But I still don’t feel like we need to reach on a prospect before his grade would indicate at those spots. If we hit on whichever positions of need we draft... it gives us another year or two to completely focus on positions of need. If you reach on prospects, it makes it less likely that you hit on them—and this you have more positions to fill.

The one guy I’m completely sold on as a 4-5th rounder is Antonio Gibson. That guy would be a weapon in our offense from day 1.

[Shields68]

Originally Posted by SBLIVchamps

I think this draft is going to be wild and the places where kids get drafted will be incredibly wonky compared to where we see them before the draft. If I’m the chiefs, I pray one of Murray/Queen fall in the first. If not, I try to trade back to 34-42 and pick up and additional early 4th). We need to target one of Gay or Brooks later if neither of the first two are available

I’m also of the opinion that because of the depth in offensive talent in the draft, some RBs fall to round 2-3 that wouldn’t normally be there. One or two of swift, dobbins, Taylor or CEH will fall to our 63rd pick. If “our guy” is there at 63, it’s hard to imagine the staff passing on them given the smoke around us wanting to add offensive talent.

CB and OL will be addressed no doubt. But I still don’t feel like we need to reach on a prospect before his grade would indicate at those spots. If we hit on whichever positions of need we draft... it gives us another year or two to completely focus on positions of need. If you reach on prospects, it makes it less likely that you hit on them—and this you have more positions to fill.

The one guy I’m completely sold on as a 4-5th rounder is Antonio Gibson. That guy would be a weapon in our offense from day 1.

My guess is that it won't be too bad. It is always a little wonky on a couple picks. I think the real problems are guys coming off injury. A lot of teams were not able to have their medical team examine the players so that might be more of a risk then teams are willing to take.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

There are some really good options in this draft that will be available fitting major needs. Which means we'll probably go 1) TE, 2) DT, 3) OT. The majority of folks will be batshit crazy mad, but after further evaluation a year later everyone will be praising the evil genius of Burt.

[SBLIVchamps]

Food for thought: If the jags offer Pick 20 and 73 for Chris Jones, and you can guarantee Murray or Queen is there at 20... Do you accept that trade?

[Shields68]

Originally Posted by SBLIVchamps

Food for thought: If the jags offer Pick 20 and 73 for Chris Jones, and you can guarantee Murray or Queen is there at 20... Do you accept that trade?

It depends on whether you believe you will be able to sign Jones and make his contract work with the upcoming Mahomes contract.

If you don't then you make the trade. But realistically you need to make the trade prior to the draft. You need Jones signed before you can deal him and no team is going to deal for him unless they know what the numbers of his actual contract. So there won't be a guarantee.

[smithandrew051]

I agree with drafting best player available, but normally there are multiple players right around the same level at different positions.

For instance, at 32 the Chiefs might see a corner, linebacker, and wide receiver with the same grade (or very close). In those cases, I think Veach/Reid use need as the tiebreaker.

It’s never a good idea to reach based on need though. I’d rather have another stud at a position where we’re already loaded than reach to fill a hole. Fill the hole later in the draft when the BPA fits that need.

[smithandrew051]

It’s much easier to make the argument for BPA for this Chiefs team. The holes aren’t as bad as most teams. If we have a weak spot, it’s essentially the same positions as last year and we won a Super Bowl with that. Great position to be in.