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Old 04-21-2020, 09:20 PM  
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LNBS: Did Reid force Dorsey out because he didn’t want to lose Veach
I was explaining to a buddy how Veach was the guy that found Mahomes, and it got me thinking.

Dorsey was fired after Ballard was hired by the Colts, and the timing was weird. I don’t doubt that Dorsey’s issues were part of the reason as well, but something tells me Reid was scared to lose a guy who he knew had a special eye for talent and found his QB.
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Old 04-22-2020, 11:02 AM   #61
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why did you take that specifically personally?

I was referring to several posts by several posters.

that's why I didn't quote anyone in particular.

If it doesn't apply to you, then don't apply it.
That’s why I asked who said that....
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Old 04-22-2020, 11:03 AM   #62
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everything isn't a conspiracy guys, with nefarious characters carrying on evil secret plans.
Yeah I think it’s more simple than folks realize. Dorsey was fired for being an egotistical sonofabitch who can’t play well with others or handle any managerial responsibilities. Low and behold, the internal candidate who has impressed management replaces him.

This happens all the time in the real world. I mean FFS the guy was not management material, ever. He was rarely professional. Dorsey never even dressed like a manager.

Dorsey was a ticking time bomb.
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Old 04-22-2020, 11:04 AM   #63
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It's been implied by several people all the way back since it happened that Reid is power hungry and doesn't share it.

That he basically undermined Dorsey to get rid of him and install a yes man.

That he might have gotten rid of Dorsey to keep Veach, who he saw as a diamond in the rough.

That Clark got hoodwinked.

Now, since we won the SB, everyone is more forgiving of Andy, and so it's painted in a less nefarious light, but there's still a lot of speculation implying things that run counter to anything/everything anyone who's ever worked with Reid says.

If that seems like I'm misunderstanding, then perhaps it's my own bias.

I generally see a lot of over-reaction and assumption of back room scheming on this board when it's more likely a lot less sinister or sneaky than all that.
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Old 04-22-2020, 11:24 AM   #64
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So Veach could trade himself. If he wanted a pick/player bad enough
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It's been implied by several people all the way back since it happened that Reid is power hungry and doesn't share it.

That he basically undermined Dorsey to get rid of him and install a yes man.

That he might have gotten rid of Dorsey to keep Veach, who he saw as a diamond in the rough.

That Clark got hoodwinked.

Now, since we won the SB, everyone is more forgiving of Andy, and so it's painted in a less nefarious light, but there's still a lot of speculation implying things that run counter to anything/everything anyone who's ever worked with Reid says.

If that seems like I'm misunderstanding, then perhaps it's my own bias.

I generally see a lot of over-reaction and assumption of back room scheming on this board when it's more likely a lot less sinister or sneaky than all that.

That’s a great point. I don’t know where people got this idea that Andy is power hungry or a control freak. But since we won the Super Bowl, I’ve noticed the talk about Andy being dictator for life in KC has died way down. Probably because it was a silly and stupid narrative that fans chose to believe to vent their frustrations
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Old 04-22-2020, 12:04 PM   #66
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Andy said in a interview just awhile back he didn’t want anything to do with front office.Alluded to past experience in Philadelphia and mentioned that it didn’t work and wanted nothing more than coaching.Now I am sure he wanted someone who would listen to his input
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Old 04-22-2020, 04:25 PM   #67
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That’s all speculation IIRC, no different from this.

I said that issues with Dorsey were also probably part of the decision as well, but something just tells me Reid knew what he had in Veach and refused to lose him too. It’s not a coincidence that he got the job after and he was being talked about for a GM job that offseason (Buffalo).


There was definitely something off with Clark and Dorsey watching the way they embraced half ass after the Mahomes pick.

I initially thought it was due to drafting a 1st rd. QB, lol.
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And I still thought that when I met Clark at Centurylink '18 when the 1st words outta my mouth was, "thanks for drafting a 1st rd. QB", lol.
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How is it terrible you butt****ing moron?
We can all agree Veach is a good GM dont need to dive into conspiracy theories to justify his accomplishments.
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Old 04-22-2020, 05:11 PM   #70
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Dorsey is an asshole and a terrible cap manger and cotract negotiator. We canned him and so did the Brown. He is shitty GM, that's why he was fired. End of story.
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Didnt Dorsey get fired shortly after they cut Maclin? I seem to remember everyone going to his wedding them they cut him like a week later lol
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Dorsey was ****ing terrible with the cap too. Hell we have basically the same squad as last year and are under the salary cap. He can get Jones and Mahomes extended somehow without losing critical pieces I’ll let Veach blow me as much as he wants
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That’s a great point. I don’t know where people got this idea that Andy is power hungry or a control freak. But since we won the Super Bowl, I’ve noticed the talk about Andy being dictator for life in KC has died way down. Probably because it was a silly and stupid narrative that fans chose to believe to vent their frustrations
That fat reerun Ron Hughley was always saying that shit, but he's no longer on radio, so you don't have to hear him saying that shit.

In the beginning I thought Andy had full say in everything and made all the decisions. I thought he listened to his people though, but had the final say. Now I firmly believe that Veach handles personnel and Andy coaches. He learned from Philly.
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Veach makes all the moves but if Reid wants a player Veach will go get him. Just like last year when Spags wanted HB Veach went out and made sure that happened
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