Chiefs Chris Simms "the blatant DPI on Hill was the turning point in the game" - Page 5

AdolfOliverBush · 10-13-2020, 09:52 AM

The Chiefs could've voluntarily spotted the Raiders 28 points and still won easily, if they had bothered to show up for the game. KC deserved to lose that game, because they sucked balls.

Hawker007 · 10-13-2020, 10:20 AM

The holding call on Schwarz late in the game that negated a 20+ yard gain was absolutely laughable. The defender literally fell down, there was zero grab. We replayed it about 10 times looking for what the ref could've possibly seen and it was absolutely nothing. We ended up scoring on that drive, but it took time away and showed the incompetence of this crew.

KChiefs1 · 10-13-2020, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawker007

The holding call on Schwarz late in the game that negated a 20+ yard gain was absolutely laughable. The defender literally fell down, there was zero grab. We replayed it about 10 times looking for what the ref could've possibly seen and it was absolutely nothing. We ended up scoring on that drive, but it took time away and showed the incompetence of this crew.

The Raider begged for the flag & Blakeman gave it to him.

RunKC · 10-13-2020, 11:02 AM

The Osemele penalty negating the Tyreek bomb was dumb...as in dumb by Osemele.

Clear evidence he grabbed the jersey on the outside shoulder and pulled the DL down. Doesn’t make sense considering that DL lost his balance early and pretty much had little chance to recover.

Mecca · 10-13-2020, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawker007

The holding call on Schwarz late in the game that negated a 20+ yard gain was absolutely laughable. The defender literally fell down, there was zero grab. We replayed it about 10 times looking for what the ref could've possibly seen and it was absolutely nothing. We ended up scoring on that drive, but it took time away and showed the incompetence of this crew.

They knew that crew, if the Dl goes to the ground they call holding a lot. They were using it as a strategy if they didn't win the rep to hit the ground. On one of the plays Ferrell and Crosby literally hit the corner of their rush and both dropped to the ground at the same time.

**Bowser** · 10-13-2020, 10:29 AM

^ Yeah, that call on Schwartz was maybe the worst of the game, and there were plenty of bad calls to choose from. I had actually kinda forgotten about that one.

Frosty · 10-13-2020, 10:51 AM

Not to sound like BlackOp here, but I thought it was strange that there were several calls against the Chiefs' D, including a call against Ward on 3rd down that kept a Raiders' scoring drive alive, and they didn't show replays on them. Kind of shades of the Pittsburgh game a couple of years ago.

**Bowser** · 10-13-2020, 11:06 AM

"Offensive linemen hold on every play" /Tim Grunhard

jdubya · 10-13-2020, 11:12 AM

40-32....moving on

emaw1979 · 10-13-2020, 11:58 AM

The BS holding call that negated a TD, the blatent PI non-call that negated a likely TD catch, the never called pick play that negated a TD (kicked FG instead). The officiating was horrible and played a part in the loss.

That being said, the Chiefs played like shit in the 2nd half. I haven't seen a worse defensive performance since Sutton.

ThaVirus · 10-13-2020, 12:24 PM

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That's just the thing. Outside of Raider fans and Charles Davis (closet Raider fan, former best friend and roommate of Gruden), NOBODY thought that was a good call. Literally every comment I've seen is that it was egregious DPI.

Raiders fans would be considered a sizable amount of people, wouldn't they? And surely there were many causal observers who didn't mind the non-call as well.

htismaqe · 10-13-2020, 01:49 PM

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Raiders fans would be considered a sizable amount of people, wouldn't they? And surely there were many causal observers who didn't mind the non-call as well.

Well to be fair, I've only seen a handful of comments and that were all from Raiders fans.

So it isn't all Raiders fans, it's that all the comments are from Raiders fans.

I honestly haven't seen much discussion that it was a good call. Most everybody I've read or seen thought it was a bad call.

ThaVirus · 10-13-2020, 03:09 PM

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Well to be fair, I've only seen a handful of comments and that were all from Raiders fans.

So it isn't all Raiders fans, it's that all the comments are from Raiders fans.

I honestly haven't seen much discussion that it was a good call. Most everybody I've read or seen thought it was a bad call.

I don't think many people would argue that it was a good call, but I'd imagine a lot of people didn't mind it not being called.

Honestly, it doesn't even matter because that's not what I was saying in the first place. I was just laughing because two people can watch the same exact thing and both come to completely opposite conclusions. It's pretty weird.

htismaqe · 10-13-2020, 09:26 PM

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I don't think many people would argue that it was a good call, but I'd imagine a lot of people didn't mind it not being called.

Honestly, it doesn't even matter because that's not what I was saying in the first place. I was just laughing because two people can watch the same exact thing and both come to completely opposite conclusions. It's pretty weird.

I get you. I guess what I was trying to say was that this particular call was one where pretty much everybody I've heard or read thought it was a definite PI. Not much disagreement, except for a few homers.

WhiteWhale · 10-13-2020, 01:22 PM

I'll say this: the dpi was obviously blown, but the holding call was bullshit as well.

Holding should only be called if it impacts the play. That hold had no impact at all. That wasnt a guy getting beat, grabbing on, and buying time. The guy bullrushed him and he took a step back and escorted him onto his face. He wasnt getting to mahomes. There was no chance of him altering the play.

Plus each team committed 5 holds more egregious that were not flagged.

It was a BS call.

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emaw1979 Starter Join Date: Jun 2020 Casino cash: $5770400	The BS holding call that negated a TD, the blatent PI non-call that negated a likely TD catch, the never called pick play that negated a TD (kicked FG instead). The officiating was horrible and played a part in the loss. That being said, the Chiefs played like shit in the 2nd half. I haven't seen a worse defensive performance since Sutton.
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WhiteWhale Bring it on Ahab! Join Date: May 2011 Location: Doo-Dah Casino cash: $10015152	I'll say this: the dpi was obviously blown, but the holding call was bullshit as well. Holding should only be called if it impacts the play. That hold had no impact at all. That wasnt a guy getting beat, grabbing on, and buying time. The guy bullrushed him and he took a step back and escorted him onto his face. He wasnt getting to mahomes. There was no chance of him altering the play. Plus each team committed 5 holds more egregious that were not flagged. It was a BS call.
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