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Old 01-05-2022, 01:31 PM   #1
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Old 01-05-2022, 02:07 PM   #2
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Old 01-05-2022, 02:08 PM   #3
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Out of curiosity, is it legitimate to not vote for a guy for the Hall of Fame if he's a jerk?

In that case, I can see an argument for it. If a guy is jerk in the locker room, he's got less value to the team. (I see Terrell Owens over there glaring at me.) Or if a guy is a jerk in a way that damages the sport, he's not a good ambassador for football. (I see john elway drunkenly glaring at me.) But I think it's valid to withhold your Hall of Fame vote if a guy's off-field behavior tarnishes the sport.

For MVP I think it's a little different. A guy can still be MVP even if he's a jerk. But I don't know why I view them so differently. Maybe it's because the Hall of Fame is more big-picture in nature, whereas MVP is a very tactical look at what happened on the field.
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Old 01-05-2022, 02:37 PM   #4
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Out of curiosity, is it legitimate to not vote for a guy for the Hall of Fame if he's a jerk?
I don't understand how Martin Luther King Jr. Isn't in the Hall of Fame. Sure, his NFL career is limited. In fact, it's zero.

But he was such a stand up guy that did so much for the country. How could he not even get a nomination.

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Old 01-05-2022, 02:48 PM   #5
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I don't understand how Martin Luther King Jr. Isn't in the Hall of Fame. Sure, his NFL career is limited. In fact, it's zero.

But he was such a stand up guy that did so much for the country. How could he not even get a nomination.

Sheeish.
I'd put him in over Eddie George.
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Old 01-05-2022, 03:15 PM   #6
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Out of curiosity, is it legitimate to not vote for a guy for the Hall of Fame if he's a jerk?

In that case, I can see an argument for it. If a guy is jerk in the locker room, he's got less value to the team. (I see Terrell Owens over there glaring at me.) Or if a guy is a jerk in a way that damages the sport, he's not a good ambassador for football. (I see john elway drunkenly glaring at me.) But I think it's valid to withhold your Hall of Fame vote if a guy's off-field behavior tarnishes the sport.

For MVP I think it's a little different. A guy can still be MVP even if he's a jerk. But I don't know why I view them so differently. Maybe it's because the Hall of Fame is more big-picture in nature, whereas MVP is a very tactical look at what happened on the field.
No.

On the field is where players should be judged.

Otherwise, it leaves up too many room for bogus interpretation by hack writers.
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Old 01-05-2022, 03:34 PM   #7
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It's a worthless award that only goes to QB's. That makes it trash.
It should go to who had the best season and did something special. Kupp may get 1,900 yards. That's worthy of the award.
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Old 01-05-2022, 02:08 PM   #8
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Pete Rose also deserves to be in the Hall of Fame with an asterisk.
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I care about how a guy performs on the field, not off of it.

Lot's of assholes out there including LeBron but you can't take away how great they were/are on the field.
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If they want to start awards for nicest guy or most liked, go for it.
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If they want to start awards for nicest guy or most liked, go for it.
Doesn't the Walter Payton NFL man of the year award kinda take care of this?
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Doesn't the Walter Payton NFL man of the year award kinda take care of this?
I always kind of chuckle when they describe this as "the highest honor bestowed by the NFL".

Um, nope. It's a nice sentiment though.
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Aaron should be hoping someone else is voted MVP. It seems to be a jinx that prevents you from winning the Super Bowl.
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