Chiefs QB School: Mahomes missed two chances to go to the SB - Page 5

Hammock Parties · 01-31-2022, 05:33 PM

Hardman, Kelce or Pringle.

He just missed them. Period.

KC_Connection · 01-31-2022, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Brady had already won 3 Super Bowls 4 years into being a starter. Might be an inconvenient truth for your narrative but it's the truth nevertheless.

Brady had the good fortune of playing on one of the best defensive teams in NFL history for that period where he had to do little more to win than be Alex Smith. Context matters.

MahomesMagic · 01-31-2022, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

It happens to the greatest.

That's the reality we just haven't experienced as Chiefs fans, until now.

And now we experienced that reality back to back: getting blistered in the big one, and getting gut punched at home in the AFCCG after being up big.

Tough lessons, learned fast. It will pay off in the next decade.

Mahomes has incredible accomplishments including going to 4 AFC Championships in just first 4 starting seasons.
Winning 2 AFC Championships and going to 2 Super Bowls. Winning 1 as Super Bowl MVP.

Winning regular NFL MVP.

He also has the experience of losing a Super Bowl. And losing 2 AFC Championships in OT.

All at the age of 26.

I do think we should have won at least 1 more. But he has incredible experiences now and we need to have 2 great off-seasons in a row to keep us here.

As crappy as he played at times in the 2nd half, if he hits the TD late in regulation or in OT Tyreek is able to make the catch despite the great DB efforts the story is totally different.

Just a play or 2 can rewrite a game's story.

Hammock Parties · 01-31-2022, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Did Jackson do something so ****ed up at halftime it got to him like Britney's stepfather having a heart attack before the 1st half ended then the 2nd half Patrick's play dip

TikTok of Brit blowing some guy in the john?

smithandrew051 · 01-31-2022, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Brady had the good fortune of playing on one of the best defensive teams in NFL history for that period where he had to do little more to win than be Alex Smith. Context matters.

Brady’s passer rating for a season never got above 93 until he got Randy Moss.

Hammock Parties · 01-31-2022, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Mahomes has incredible accomplishments including going to 4 AFC Championships in just first 4 starting seasons.
Winning 2 AFC Championships and going to 2 Super Bowls. Winning 1 as Super Bowl MVP.

Winning regular NFL MVP.

He also has the experience of losing a Super Bowl. And losing 2 AFC Championships in OT.

All at the age of 26.

I do think we should have won at least 1 more. But he has incredible experiences now and we need to have 2 great off-seasons in a row to keep us here.

As crappy as he played at times in the 2nd half, if he hits the TD late in regulation or in OT Tyreek is able to make the catch despite the great DB efforts the story is totally different.

Just a play or 2 can rewrite a game's story.

Quoting to show my agreement with this post.

The floor for Patrick Mahomes is still an AFC Championship loss by one score.

We will have plenty of chances to get back.

KC_Connection · 01-31-2022, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08

No way man. Brady had 3 rings in 4 years.

Last I checked, winning championships was a team award. I know everybody loves building the mythology of Brady these days, but he was nothing 4 years into his career and nobody was taking him seriously as any kind of all-time great.

KC_Connection · 01-31-2022, 07:20 PM

Brady threw 18 touchdowns and 12 interceptions in year 1, 28 and 14 in year 2, 23 and 12 in year 3, and 28 and 14 in year 4. And that was with him taking far less risk and passing the ball far less than he did later in his career.

He simply wasn't that good a player in those days and honestly didn't have to be in order for those Pats teams to win. He's not comparable to years 1-4 Mahomes (though nobody in NFL history is btw).

DRM08 · 01-31-2022, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Last I checked, winning championships was a team award. I know everybody loves building the mythology of Brady these days, but he was nothing 4 years into his career and nobody was taking him seriously as any kind of all-time great.

I remember plenty of media hype about the fact he had 3 rings at such a young age. And yes he benefited a huge amount from the defense/Belichick. But he got the 3 rings at a very young age and continued to build on it.

PurpleJesus28 · 01-31-2022, 07:22 PM

The lack of the Chiefs running the ball more in the second half,and Mahomes not running for a first down like he sometimes does,instead just running backwards,i mean,run for for 3 or 4 yards.Also wasnt that Jones that had Burrow in a bear hug at least once,how the hell is that not a sack,just hold on to him,he shouldnt be able to get out of that.

KC_Connection · 01-31-2022, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08

I remember plenty of media hype about the fact he had 3 rings at such a young age. And yes he benefited a huge amount from the defense/Belichick. But he got the 3 rings at a very young age and continued to build on it.

The only year of those three seasons he even received a MVP vote was 2003. He was very much not considered to be the reason for those teams' success (and rightfully so because he wasn't).

Chiefspants · 01-31-2022, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08

It’s a different era. 24 hour news cycle. Montana also had a much better defense backing him and he played in the era when you could build super-teams without a salary cap.

Sure, but Brady also had his share of losses in that way in this newscycle, and even Manning’s career as a postseason choke artist has been largely forgotten in his own mythology. Even a QB like Kurt Warner is often remembered for his 51-45 duel over Rodgers despite that postseason ending with him getting destroyed by the New Orleans Bounties. Even deflategate and bountygate have largely been forgotten.

The one benefit of constant news is that it quickly buries everything in his path. Another title for Patrick and I largely expect the same to happen here.

**BigRedChief** · 01-31-2022, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by wachashi

Hesitation is the QB killer.

Mahomes lost his confidence and stopped throwing with anticipation. I will never understand how he could look so different in the second half.

He didn’t need to anticipate to see his favorite target Kelce directly in front of him in a direct line for the we are going to the SB TD.

crayzkirk · 01-31-2022, 07:51 PM

Replay is on tonight... I can't and won't watch it.

DTVietnam · 01-31-2022, 07:57 PM

he plays scared after anything bad happens

examples:

Freak Knee injury - he'll never QB sneak
Fumbled on a scramble - now he slides 10 yrds before any defender is near or runsd to the sidelines
Throws interception- doesnt throw the ball anymore

He plays scared at times and if that doesnt change that will be the difference from him being an amazing stat talent and having GOAT Brady-like status

my worry is he is Marino with 1 ring

Hammock Parties · 01-31-2022, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DTVietnam

he plays scared after anything bad happens

examples:

Freak Knee injury - he'll never QB sneak
Fumbled on a scramble - now he slides 10 yrds before any defender is near or runsd to the sidelines
Throws interception- doesnt throw the ball anymore

He plays scared at times and if that doesnt change that will be the difference from him being an amazing stat talent and having GOAT Brady-like status

my worry is he is Marino with 1 ring

early contender for dumbest post of 2022

01-31-2022, 05:33 PM
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KC_Connection Perpetual Mediocrity Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $1462783	Brady threw 18 touchdowns and 12 interceptions in year 1, 28 and 14 in year 2, 23 and 12 in year 3, and 28 and 14 in year 4. And that was with him taking far less risk and passing the ball far less than he did later in his career. He simply wasn't that good a player in those days and honestly didn't have to be in order for those Pats teams to win. He's not comparable to years 1-4 Mahomes (though nobody in NFL history is btw).
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01-31-2022, 07:22 PM	#69
PurpleJesus28 Starter Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Out there,past them trees Casino cash: $5505040	The lack of the Chiefs running the ball more in the second half,and Mahomes not running for a first down like he sometimes does,instead just running backwards,i mean,run for for 3 or 4 yards.Also wasnt that Jones that had Burrow in a bear hug at least once,how the hell is that not a sack,just hold on to him,he shouldnt be able to get out of that.
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DTVietnam Veteran Join Date: May 2018 Casino cash: $9520400	he plays scared after anything bad happens examples: Freak Knee injury - he'll never QB sneak Fumbled on a scramble - now he slides 10 yrds before any defender is near or runsd to the sidelines Throws interception- doesnt throw the ball anymore He plays scared at times and if that doesnt change that will be the difference from him being an amazing stat talent and having GOAT Brady-like status my worry is he is Marino with 1 ring
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