Football Bengals offensive line - Page 5

dlphg9 · 01-24-2023, 04:40 PM

In weeks 1 through 8 Burrow was sacked 29 times. Since week 9 Burrow has only been sacked 17 times in 10 games. The only game during that time frame where he was sacked more than 2 times was the WC game against the Ravens, in which they sacked him 4 times.

Burrow gets the ball out the 2nd fasted in the league. Did he adjust to get the ball out faster to help the line or is the line just playing better. Burrow isn't a guy that is going to extend the play like a Mahomes, so he's not helping keep the sack numbers down like that.

So what is it? Better line play or Burrow is just so fast it's hard to get to him?

If it is because of his quick release, then would us jamming the shit out of the WR help the pass rushers and give them just a big more time? What is the key to getting to Burrow?

smithandrew051 · 01-24-2023, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesIsTheMVP

It sure seems that way.

We need the CEO of SackNation to go crazy in this game.

I can think of no better time for Jones to have a monster 2.5 sack postseason performance.

dlphg9 · 01-25-2023, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by poolboy

nobodys arguing and nobodys shutting up . its a couple small tweaks to a couple guys on d...stop making it sound like rocket science

You're just so incredibly stupid it's unbelievable.

kccrow · 01-25-2023, 03:28 AM

We don't have the personnel to run a 3-3-5 right now as a regular thing throughout the game. There wouldn't be depth at DE to do it. Could you work in it once in a while? Sure. You'd want your DEs be Jones and Dunlap with Williams at NT. LBs would be Gay, Bolton, and Chenal.

You wouldn't have Jones playing NT and you wouldn't have light DEs like Clark, Danna, and Karlaftis playing that front at all. I mean you could, and you'd get destroyed.

Anyhow, I otherwise agree with DJ. You're going to need zone blitzing and split coverages. Not every zone blitz needs to drop a DE but mixing it up will help keep Burrow off balance. You can roll linebackers and safeties to cover the vacated area just as well as you can drop a defensive lineman.

Chris Meck · 01-25-2023, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by poolboy

nobodys arguing and nobodys shutting up . its a couple small tweaks to a couple guys on d...stop making it sound like rocket science

dude, no.

IowaHawkeyeChief · 01-25-2023, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

Luckily we have that greek guy, who analytical services have graded as in the bottom 10% of all NFL starting DEs.

We are in are 5th straight AFCCG, yet you seem to always be miserable about every aspect of this team. Some of us actually were fans when deep criticism was warranted, I can't imagine being a fan in this Chiefs era and being as miserable as you.

Coochie liquor · 01-25-2023, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

Luckily we have that greek guy, who analytical services have graded as in the bottom 10% of all NFL starting DEs.

So you’re choosing a rookie, who’s played pretty damn well at the end of the season vs the other guys we have? That’s definitely some BWillie shit!

FlaChief58 · 01-25-2023, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

Luckily we have that greek guy, who analytical services have graded as in the bottom 10% of all NFL starting DEs.

Insert WTF jag fan gif

wachashi · 01-25-2023, 09:12 AM

This Bengals offensive line full of backups is not a good pass protection unit, but they can run block and Burrow can chew up yards with quick throws. I think we’ve got to take away the quick stuff and stop the run at the risk of allowing some longer throws. That’s how you test this offensive line and their pass protection.

The Bills couldn’t stop the run and were playing soft coverage. Gonna be a way different approach from Spags.

stevieray · 01-25-2023, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

Luckily we have that greek guy, who analytical services have graded as in the bottom 10% of all NFL starting DEs.

Don't watch, then.

They don't need your "support".

Valiant · 01-25-2023, 10:55 AM

It will come down if our front four can hit him without pressure.
Hopefully they are prepared for the physicality of the Bengals on both lines.
They are coming in to punch us in our face. Especially knowing Pat is immobile from his normal abilities.

smithandrew051 · 01-25-2023, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by wachashi

This Bengals offensive line full of backups is not a good pass protection unit, but they can run block and Burrow can chew up yards with quick throws. I think we’ve got to take away the quick stuff and stop the run at the risk of allowing some longer throws. That’s how you test this offensive line and their pass protection.

The Bills couldn’t stop the run and were playing soft coverage. Gonna be a way different approach from Spags.

Can the Bengals run block though?

They were the 4th least productive rushing team in the league and 4th worst in yards per carry, despite having a tandem of running backs that most here seem to like.

The Bills are the only team they’ve been able to run on lately.

VAChief · 01-25-2023, 11:34 AM

Sacks don't matter as much against this offense. Burrow was sacked 9 times last year in the divisional round and still won.

You have to get them off the field on 3rd down (whether sacks, PBU's, great tackling) more than they do the same against our offense.

Do that and you win.

RaidersOftheCellar · 01-25-2023, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

The Bengals oline destroyed the Bills. With the 2 or 3 backup guys or not, they looked fine.

The snow obviously played a big part in that. Cincinnati's OL was abused the week before. They're not good.

dlphg9 · 01-25-2023, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

Luckily we have that greek guy, who analytical services have graded as in the bottom 10% of all NFL starting DEs.

You're just such a dumb sack of shit it's insane. Couldn't imagine how you are in real life.

wachashi · 01-25-2023, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051

Can the Bengals run block though?

They were the 4th least productive rushing team in the league and 4th worst in yards per carry, despite having a tandem of running backs that most here seem to like.

The Bills are the only team they’ve been able to run on lately.

The group that played last week against the Bills is essentially a different offensive line than they played with all year. I think run blocking is their strength, especially compared to their pass blocking. They may not be great, but it's clear to me the Bengals coaching staff played to their strengths last week.

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dlphg9 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $-1490347	Bengals offensive line In weeks 1 through 8 Burrow was sacked 29 times. Since week 9 Burrow has only been sacked 17 times in 10 games. The only game during that time frame where he was sacked more than 2 times was the WC game against the Ravens, in which they sacked him 4 times. Burrow gets the ball out the 2nd fasted in the league. Did he adjust to get the ball out faster to help the line or is the line just playing better. Burrow isn't a guy that is going to extend the play like a Mahomes, so he's not helping keep the sack numbers down like that. So what is it? Better line play or Burrow is just so fast it's hard to get to him? If it is because of his quick release, then would us jamming the shit out of the WR help the pass rushers and give them just a big more time? What is the key to getting to Burrow?
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01-25-2023, 03:28 AM	#63
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $-1140000	We don't have the personnel to run a 3-3-5 right now as a regular thing throughout the game. There wouldn't be depth at DE to do it. Could you work in it once in a while? Sure. You'd want your DEs be Jones and Dunlap with Williams at NT. LBs would be Gay, Bolton, and Chenal. You wouldn't have Jones playing NT and you wouldn't have light DEs like Clark, Danna, and Karlaftis playing that front at all. I mean you could, and you'd get destroyed. Anyhow, I otherwise agree with DJ. You're going to need zone blitzing and split coverages. Not every zone blitz needs to drop a DE but mixing it up will help keep Burrow off balance. You can roll linebackers and safeties to cover the vacated area just as well as you can drop a defensive lineman.
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wachashi Veteran Join Date: Jan 2019 Casino cash: $6360400	This Bengals offensive line full of backups is not a good pass protection unit, but they can run block and Burrow can chew up yards with quick throws. I think we’ve got to take away the quick stuff and stop the run at the risk of allowing some longer throws. That’s how you test this offensive line and their pass protection. The Bills couldn’t stop the run and were playing soft coverage. Gonna be a way different approach from Spags.
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Valiant Valiant 'The Thread Killer' Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $4562380	It will come down if our front four can hit him without pressure. Hopefully they are prepared for the physicality of the Bengals on both lines. They are coming in to punch us in our face. Especially knowing Pat is immobile from his normal abilities.
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01-25-2023, 11:34 AM	#72
VAChief Comfortably Numb Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Virginia Casino cash: $2244657	Sacks don't matter as much against this offense. Burrow was sacked 9 times last year in the divisional round and still won. You have to get them off the field on 3rd down (whether sacks, PBU's, great tackling) more than they do the same against our offense. Do that and you win.
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