3rd/4th and 1 Conversions

[suzzer99]

I'd really like one of these stat nerds to quantify how much win % we give up each game by turning 3rd/4th and 1 into 50% success rate, while the rest of the league is at 80-90%.

[BossChief]

It’s possible Andy is calling certain plays in certain situations to set up defenses in the postseason to go against an established trend/tendency.

[ChiefEd]

Originally Posted by BossChief

It’s possible Andy is calling certain plays in certain situations to set up defenses in the postseason to go against an established trend/tendency.

This.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by BossChief

It’s possible Andy is calling certain plays in certain situations to set up defenses in the postseason to go against an established trend/tendency.

I’ve always thought this. Great point.

[dlphg9]

Isiah Pacheco is 5 for 7 in 3rd/4th and 2 or less. He's only attempted that scenario in 4 games. McKinnon is 3/4.

[trndobrd]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Isiah Pacheco is 5 for 7 in 3rd/4th and 2 or less. He's only attempted that scenario in 4 games. McKinnon is 3/4.

Chiefs are second highest in the league with a 63.3% conversion rate when rushing on 3rd and short (3yards or less in that analysis). This is arguably the best interior o-line on the NFL. Pacheco is not afraid of contact and smart/agile enough to pop out of the pile if it is too clogged up. There is no need for rugby scrum or anything fancy. If Reid/Nagy really want to pass on 3rd and short, it should at least be off play action.

[CoMoChief]

I think the offensive scheme by default hurts the run game.

95% of the offense is ran from a shotgun/RPO scheme.

Andy Reid is NOTORIOUS for abandoning the run game. Sorry folks he's never going to change. Hard for any RB to get into any good kind of rhythm. Even when Andy's backs are avg well over 4-5yds/carry he just ignores the run game for entire quarters even. Insane.

When it's time to get a few yards and line up behind center, everyone and their mom knows whats coming, imo thats why they have to get cute and run these maddening infuriating east west plays.

Gary Pinkel did the same thing at MU.

It's a college scheme.

Chiefs supposedly have the NFL's best interior OL, or top 3 at worse. Why they have these troubles just makes me wanna pull my hair out.

For those who say "They're in 1st and 7-2 at the bye and you're bitching?"

Well....You gotta be able to run the ball and play defense in Jan. Thank god the defense is doing more than enough on their part.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

I think the offensive scheme by default hurts the run game.

95% of the offense is ran from a shotgun/RPO scheme.

Andy Reid is NOTORIOUS for abandoning the run game. Sorry folks he's never going to change. Hard for any RB to get into any good kind of rhythm. Even when Andy's backs are avg well over 4-5yds/carry he just ignores the run game for entire quarters even. Insane.

When it's time to get a few yards and line up behind center, everyone and their mom knows whats coming, imo thats why they have to get cute and run these maddening infuriating east west plays.

Gary Pinkel did the same thing at MU.

It's a college scheme.

Chiefs supposedly have the NFL's best interior OL, or top 3 at worse. Why they have these troubles just makes me wanna pull my hair out.

For those who say "They're in 1st and 7-2 at the bye and you're bitching?"

Well....You gotta be able to run the ball and play defense in Jan. Thank god the defense is doing more than enough on their part.

Well.... he's also won two SBs and been to several more championship games and is the 4th winningest coach in NFL history.

Notorious and insane doesn't really fit when it works. I'd prefer he doesn't listen to critics and take football back 30 years with dumbass concepts like "establish the run" and "run the ball and play defense".

[-King-]

C'mon guys. Andy isn't tanking 3rd and 1s just so he can unleash a run play in the post season .

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by -King-

C'mon guys. Andy isn't tanking 3rd and 1s just so he can unleash a run play in the post season .

I'll laugh my ass off if we finally do the QB sneak on a 3rd and short in the Super Bowl.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I'll laugh my ass off if we finally do the QB sneak on a 3rd and short in the Super Bowl.

I think in that case he would or Patrick would do it himself even if it's not called. At that point,you have to just throw all caution to the wind and do what you have to do.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by -King-

I think in that case he would or Patrick would do it himself even if it's not called. At that point,you have to just throw all caution to the wind and do what you have to do.

Remember him taking that huge hit in the SB against the 49ers? That scared the shit out of me, but he ****ing killed Jimmy Ward instead lol. It looks like he's gonna try to slide, but starts too late.

[Eleazar]

Chiefs fans always seem to want their Martyball pacifier when something goes wrong.

We are going to do what we do and we will live and die with Andy's offense.

One would think that with what Andy and his offense have achieved here people would be fine with that.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by Eleazar

Chiefs fans always seem to want their Martyball pacifier when something goes wrong.

We are going to do what we do and we will live and die with Andy's offense.

One would think that with what Andy and his offense have achieved here people would be fine with that.

The passey is safey.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by Eleazar

Chiefs fans always seem to want their Martyball pacifier when something goes wrong.

We are going to do what we do and we will live and die with Andy's offense.

One would think that with what Andy and his offense have achieved here people would be fine with that.

I just want “hope and noise” in the playoffs. Reminds me of the good ol days.