Chiefs A Level Headed Review Week 6 2023 - Page 5

DenverChief · 09:24 PM

1. Chamari Connor - Great open field tackle on 2nd and 1 to force 3rd and 2. Should have been a punt but Bolton was knocked down by the TE and Sneed couldn't get wrapped up as Bolton was on his feet.

2. Justin Reid - great play to sack Wilson on 4th and 3 turning the ball over and then getting the pick on the batted ball. Great player and happy he came here over Tyrann "Business Decisions" Mathieu.

3. Pacheco - once again making the Chiefs look like a competent running team. 3 Carries for 15 yards on the first drive. Every week he gets better and better catch and running. 9 carries for 47 yards in the first half (5.2 YPC). I think one aspect of Pacheco's game that could be improved is that he needs to stick his foot in the ground and turn upfield - I feel like he tries to race the defender to the edge when there is no chance of making it - he just needs to make that stick and go upfield and get 2,3,4 yards. Perfect example of that was the 1st down run in the 4th Q where he lost a yard trying to beat the safety to the corner.

4. Nick Bolton - what an interception. Way to find the route and sit underneath.

5. Patrick - INT ball seemed a bit under thrown - that pocket had really collapsed around him when he threw that ball. Not sure if his arm was clipped on that throw or not, I missed the replay. But I think he waited a wee too long on that play for someone to come open. He didn't even seen the blitzer until the last second on the sack before the 2 min warning. Called the blitz (watch cover 0) but didn't get rid of the ball quickly - cost the Chiefs field position - but Butker comes thru with another booming kick to put us back up 2 scores. On second look of that Jawaan missed that assignment and should have taken the inside guy instead of the outside rusher.

6. Malik Herring - really blew up that 3rd down play by beating the OLineman to the gap and blowing up the running lane for Burton allowing Sneed to help clean up the play.

7. Kelce - Continues to be Kelce. He is Patrick's Binky - guy just knows how to be THE open receiver on the field. (7 Rec for 109 Yards at half) but only two more catches in the second half.

8. Amazon - way to miss the 4th down fake FG play to look at some random coach on the Broncos sideline. I swear we got 2 yards on that Tush Push play but they never showed where the ball ended up at.

9. Montrell Washington - first drop on a punt, willing to give him a pass on this one - he was retreating hard (not drifting back) to catch the ball, that has to be pretty hard. Based upon his prior performance I believe this is more an anomaly than a problem. Exciting 4th Q run back makes up for the miscue earlier even though it was wiped out by a (bogus) penalty.

10 Kadarius Toney - Great to see him get into the end zone. Great rub route by MVS to get him open in the flat. Toney can throw the ball (was a pretty spiral with plenty of distance) too just lucky it wasn't picked throwing into double coverage.

11. Butker - Has continued to be money and that 60 yard field goal would have been good from 70. Incredible leg on that guy - never mind the wind was swirling. We are fortunate to have such a reliable kicker. 52 yarder to seal the deal.

12. Moore - A Moore sighting with a 10 yard reception and a first down....and then disappears again until the last drive with a nice first down catch. I wish I could complain more about this but if all he does is catch first downs when we really need them...he is doing better than MVS

13. Rice - great catch and run on the slant route for a 23 yard gain. Great almost first down on 3rd and 17 - never would have guessed we could have gotten to a 4th and 1 on a WR screen to Rice in that situation. 28 yard reception on 3rd and 2 was just absolutely money. MOAR.

14. Red Zone Offense - a little concerning we seem to be having problems with punching it in the End Zone when in goal to go situations. We seem to move the ball up and down the field well but Red Zone offense is a struggle - need to figure that out. Broncos defense came to play though - I'm sure some of that is due to them fighting for their pride.

15. Jaylen Watson - that PI was horrible, he lost the ball in the air and grabbed Sutton's arm. Great 4th Q play to bat the ball away from the receiver on a go route down the sideline. True form for a CB forget about the last play and go out and make a play on the next one.

16. Trick plays - We just don't seem to be able make the trick plays happen this year. Toney should have handed that ball to Pacheco and they would have had a 1st down. Sometimes being cute too much is - well too much. Just stick with the basics for now. Once we figure out the basics we can bring the cute stuff back.

17. Defense - the Defense has been really good tonight with getting their bear paws in the passing lanes and batting down 4 passes. Getting pressure on Wilson and generally holding the Broncos offense to ineffective until the penalty fest of the last drive. Can't really say enough about the Defense and creating turnovers - a few penalties that need to be cleaned up but for the most part played a really good game - do I dare say our Defense is outplaying our Offense at this point?

18. J Watson - didn't see what the injury was but by the way he was shaking his leg while laying on the ground he was in a tremendous amount of pain. (elbow injury).

19. MVS - has just flat out disappeared (except for a critical crack back block penalty) - no Justyn Ross appearance either.

20. Roughing the Passer - They need to change the rule back to a one step rule - if the defender is within one step of the QB before the ball is released there is no roughing. IDK how Edwards could have not landed on top of the QB if that was any factor in the call - reminiscent of the Chris Jones sack and strip of Carr last year - just asinine interpretation of the rule.

displacedinMN · 10-13-2023, 11:35 AM

agree with the trick plays

I have said "we are not playing well enough for that trick play"

If we are up 25 and killing them----fine.

Andy wants the trick play as a back breaker when it is close. We dont need those as much, we have other weapons.

FloridaMan88 · 10-13-2023, 11:41 AM

MVS zero targets on 39 snaps.

Dunerdr · 10-13-2023, 12:30 PM

Low key hoping Watson being out settles MVS into his role from the end of last year by forcing some trust with him.

KCJake · 10-13-2023, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

MVS zero targets on 39 snaps.

I think Rice is our guy. Watching him last night, he looks like the real deal. If the Chiefs offense gets better and we win another SuperBowl, it will be because this dude stepped up and made a difference. Toney, MVS, and Skyy Moore ... they just kinda are what they are...unfortunately

Gary Cooper · 10-13-2023, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

MVS zero targets on 39 snaps.

Didn't Toney throw him the ball when he was double-covered?

RedRaider56 · 10-13-2023, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

Didn't Toney throw him the ball when he was double-covered?

I also thought Mahomes targeted him on a throw that was long out of the back of the EZ.

Hammock Parties · 10-13-2023, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr

Low key hoping Watson being out settles MVS into his role from the end of last year by forcing some trust with him.

Same. I don't think MVS is a bad player at all. Just think Mahomes likes Watson more.

DenverChief · 10-13-2023, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

Didn't Toney throw him the ball when he was double-covered?

McKinnon

Gary Cooper · 10-13-2023, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

McKinnon

Dang. He couldn't have picked a shorter target.

rydogg58 · 10-13-2023, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

Dang. He couldn't have picked a shorter target.

Unless it was Clyde.

**Buehler445** · 10-13-2023, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr

Low key hoping Watson being out settles MVS into his role from the end of last year by forcing some trust with him.

Do we know what Watsons injury is?

TEX · 10-13-2023, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Do we know what Watsons injury is?

Dislocated elbow. Nothing damaged. FWIW, I had one. Took me about a 3 or 4 weeks to fully recover.

IowaHawkeyeChief · 10-13-2023, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

A few things.

I think MVS running opens up the shit underneath that we're wrecking shit with. It'll be interesting if they pull coverage down.

LOL @ Donko killing Kelce. He has a bum ankle. And he embarrassed these twats. Roll coverage with Surtain and double team him. Nah. I'll take a first. Kelce at 34 is better than 26. That's ****ing incredible. I don't even.....

**** these dirty ****ing twats. 47 was trying to headhunt Kelce early. Luckily Kelce saw it coming and got down and the dude totally whiffed. Refs should have taken notice. NOPE. Pacheco gets tackled by his helmet. Refs should have called it. NOPE. Pacheco gets jacked the **** out of bounds - looked late. Refs call anything? Even if it's a makeup call? NOPE. And who here is shocked that Donko bitch **** is trying to gator roll with Kelces hurt ankle? NOPE. **** off bitches. **** off Hochuli. Your dad was a **** and you are too. Like my ****ing ass. Plus, WE WERE AT HOME. **** I hate dirty shit. Hit hard sure, but **** off with headhunting.

Offense played like nutsack and we covered a double digit spread. **** Donk Forever.

I don't cuss much at Arrowhead, but when that little bitch tried to gator roll Kelce's ankle, the Fbombs were flying.

HC_Chief · 10-14-2023, 02:58 AM

I couldn't watch the game live so have just watched the highlights. Looked like we dominated defensively (yet again), and the offense moved the ball with ease but made mistakes that killed drives, leading to FG or turnover.

Stat sheet shows it was a bit of a sleeper. We dominated start to finish. The donks were never even in it.

JPH83 · 10-14-2023, 03:12 AM

Mahomes didn't play well but I don't think this was all on the WRs, some of it was poor decision making and some of it was the play of our tackles

10-12-2023, 09:13 PM
DenverChief Pedantic Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rocky Ford Casino cash: $3072617	A Level Headed Review Week 6 2023 1. Chamari Connor - Great open field tackle on 2nd and 1 to force 3rd and 2. Should have been a punt but Bolton was knocked down by the TE and Sneed couldn't get wrapped up as Bolton was on his feet. 2. Justin Reid - great play to sack Wilson on 4th and 3 turning the ball over and then getting the pick on the batted ball. Great player and happy he came here over Tyrann "Business Decisions" Mathieu. 3. Pacheco - once again making the Chiefs look like a competent running team. 3 Carries for 15 yards on the first drive. Every week he gets better and better catch and running. 9 carries for 47 yards in the first half (5.2 YPC). I think one aspect of Pacheco's game that could be improved is that he needs to stick his foot in the ground and turn upfield - I feel like he tries to race the defender to the edge when there is no chance of making it - he just needs to make that stick and go upfield and get 2,3,4 yards. Perfect example of that was the 1st down run in the 4th Q where he lost a yard trying to beat the safety to the corner. 4. Nick Bolton - what an interception. Way to find the route and sit underneath. 5. Patrick - INT ball seemed a bit under thrown - that pocket had really collapsed around him when he threw that ball. Not sure if his arm was clipped on that throw or not, I missed the replay. But I think he waited a wee too long on that play for someone to come open. He didn't even seen the blitzer until the last second on the sack before the 2 min warning. Called the blitz (watch cover 0) but didn't get rid of the ball quickly - cost the Chiefs field position - but Butker comes thru with another booming kick to put us back up 2 scores. On second look of that Jawaan missed that assignment and should have taken the inside guy instead of the outside rusher. 6. Malik Herring - really blew up that 3rd down play by beating the OLineman to the gap and blowing up the running lane for Burton allowing Sneed to help clean up the play. 7. Kelce - Continues to be Kelce. He is Patrick's Binky - guy just knows how to be THE open receiver on the field. (7 Rec for 109 Yards at half) but only two more catches in the second half. 8. Amazon - way to miss the 4th down fake FG play to look at some random coach on the Broncos sideline. I swear we got 2 yards on that Tush Push play but they never showed where the ball ended up at. 9. Montrell Washington - first drop on a punt, willing to give him a pass on this one - he was retreating hard (not drifting back) to catch the ball, that has to be pretty hard. Based upon his prior performance I believe this is more an anomaly than a problem. Exciting 4th Q run back makes up for the miscue earlier even though it was wiped out by a (bogus) penalty. 10 Kadarius Toney - Great to see him get into the end zone. Great rub route by MVS to get him open in the flat. Toney can throw the ball (was a pretty spiral with plenty of distance) too just lucky it wasn't picked throwing into double coverage. 11. Butker - Has continued to be money and that 60 yard field goal would have been good from 70. Incredible leg on that guy - never mind the wind was swirling. We are fortunate to have such a reliable kicker. 52 yarder to seal the deal. 12. Moore - A Moore sighting with a 10 yard reception and a first down....and then disappears again until the last drive with a nice first down catch. I wish I could complain more about this but if all he does is catch first downs when we really need them...he is doing better than MVS 13. Rice - great catch and run on the slant route for a 23 yard gain. Great almost first down on 3rd and 17 - never would have guessed we could have gotten to a 4th and 1 on a WR screen to Rice in that situation. 28 yard reception on 3rd and 2 was just absolutely money. MOAR. 14. Red Zone Offense - a little concerning we seem to be having problems with punching it in the End Zone when in goal to go situations. We seem to move the ball up and down the field well but Red Zone offense is a struggle - need to figure that out. Broncos defense came to play though - I'm sure some of that is due to them fighting for their pride. 15. Jaylen Watson - that PI was horrible, he lost the ball in the air and grabbed Sutton's arm. Great 4th Q play to bat the ball away from the receiver on a go route down the sideline. True form for a CB forget about the last play and go out and make a play on the next one. 16. Trick plays - We just don't seem to be able make the trick plays happen this year. Toney should have handed that ball to Pacheco and they would have had a 1st down. Sometimes being cute too much is - well too much. Just stick with the basics for now. Once we figure out the basics we can bring the cute stuff back. 17. Defense - the Defense has been really good tonight with getting their bear paws in the passing lanes and batting down 4 passes. Getting pressure on Wilson and generally holding the Broncos offense to ineffective until the penalty fest of the last drive. Can't really say enough about the Defense and creating turnovers - a few penalties that need to be cleaned up but for the most part played a really good game - do I dare say our Defense is outplaying our Offense at this point? 18. J Watson - didn't see what the injury was but by the way he was shaking his leg while laying on the ground he was in a tremendous amount of pain. (elbow injury). 19. MVS - has just flat out disappeared (except for a critical crack back block penalty) - no Justyn Ross appearance either. 20. Roughing the Passer - They need to change the rule back to a one step rule - if the defender is within one step of the QB before the ball is released there is no roughing. IDK how Edwards could have not landed on top of the QB if that was any factor in the call - reminiscent of the Chris Jones sack and strip of Carr last year - just asinine interpretation of the rule. Last edited by DenverChief; 10-12-2023 at 09:24 PM..
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10-13-2023, 11:35 AM	#61
displacedinMN In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Correcting papers Casino cash: $-700000	agree with the trick plays I have said "we are not playing well enough for that trick play" If we are up 25 and killing them----fine. Andy wants the trick play as a back breaker when it is close. We dont need those as much, we have other weapons. __________________ #investigatecarlcheffers
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JPH83 Veteran Join Date: Feb 2021 Casino cash: $-249600	Mahomes didn't play well but I don't think this was all on the WRs, some of it was poor decision making and some of it was the play of our tackles
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