Biggest Veach Miscue: Clark or Taylor

[Skyy God]

Taylor by a mile.

[Why Not?]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Mahomes never takes sacks.

Sacks are more of a QB stat than anytime

This. Half of these garbage QB's think they can hold the ball for 5 minutes on dropbacks.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

and yet you keep trying.

Much of what he says is coming true. Its your side that has been mostly wrong this season, which is unusual.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by -King-

If we're going by hindsight I would rather have signed OBJ to be the LT and started Wanya at RT. Then I would have used the saved money to get a WR so that I don't have to see Toney lose games and raise Mahomes interception numbers on simple plays.

Paying the LT who couldn't stop a speed rush to save his life and also was responsible for getting Mahomes hurt?

That's a bold strategy

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Paying the LT who couldn't stop a speed rush to save his life and also was responsible for getting Mahomes hurt?

That's a bold strategy

Gee, it's like sometimes the cards don't always fall your way.

Who knew?

[-King-]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Paying the LT who couldn't stop a speed rush to save his life and also was responsible for getting Mahomes hurt?

That's a bold strategy

I didn't like either one of them. Didn't like OBJ as our LT and dont like Taylor as the RT. I was ok with paying Taylor what he got if he converted over to LT which is what we expected.

But again, if you had to make a decision, who is better OBJ at LT at 31mil + whoever we get for the 30mil saved. Or Taylor at RT for 60mil guaranteed, which are you taking?

Which would you rather have?

OBJ + Jakobi Meyers for $52mil guaranteed

Or

OBJ + Hopkins for $41mil guaranteed

Or

Jawaan Taylor for 60mil guaranteed?

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

No he won't. Pederson knows who he chose not to sign.

Or he could be looking into the future and realizing they can’t afford signing Taylor to a huge contract knowing that Josh Allen (their JA) is having a career year and will be a huge priority to sign as will Lawrence.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by -King-

I didn't like either one of them. Didn't like OBJ as our LT and dont like Taylor as the RT. I was ok with paying Taylor what he got if he converted over to LT which is what we expected.

But again, if you had to make a decision, who is better OBJ at LT at 31mil + whoever we get for the 30mil saved. Or Taylor at RT for 60mil guaranteed, which are you taking?

Which would you rather have?

OBJ + Jakobi Meyers for $52mil guaranteed

Or

OBJ + Hopkins for $41mil guaranteed

Or

Jawaan Taylor for 60mil guaranteed?

Is your OBJ contract based on what Cincy gave him or what KC offered him?

[RunKC]

Yeah giving Orlando this contract would have been a disaster

Schefter says the final offer from K.C. was a six-year deal worth $139 million with an average salary of $23.16 million per year and a $30.25 million signing bonus. The contract would pay $95 million in the first five years.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Dante84

The WR room.

This.

Although Taylor setting the single season penalty record… he’s just 6 away… would make Veach’s decision to make him the second highest paid RT in football look even worse.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Is your OBJ contract based on what Cincy gave him or what KC offered him?

What Cinci gave him. You can look back at the OBJ contract thread. I was NEVER in favor of making him anywhere close to the highest paid tackle. What Cinci gave him was fair value for his talent level.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

This.

Although Taylor setting the single season penalty record… he’s just 6 away… would make Veach’s decision to make him the second highest paid RT in football look even worse.

Not defending Taylor, but that is not a completely fair assessment based on the fact that he’s been targeted by the league because of that Collinsworth comment despite other RTs doing the same thing.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by -King-

What Cinci gave him. You can look back at the OBJ contract thread. I was NEVER in favor of making him anywhere close to the highest paid tackle. What Cinci gave him was fair value for his talent level.

Then your comparison doesn’t work as KC was never signing OBJ for what Cincy gave him. That died the moment KC lifted his tag and he found out exactly what the league thought of him.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Then your comparison doesn’t work as KC was never signing OBJ for what Cincy gave him. That died the moment KC lifted his tag and he found out exactly what the league thought of him.

Ok, give him 31.1mil guaranteed then.


Regardless, 80mil for Taylor was wayyy too much given how he's played. It's just wild to be in a position where a player commits a penalty so much, it's accepted and the blame is in the ref for the 5% of the time they call it. Dude should have adjusted after he got 10 penalties his rookie year. But instead here we are, with him committing the same penalties except now they stall our offense which is already having a hard time finding footing.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by -King-

Ok, give him 31.1mil guaranteed then.


Regardless, 80mil for Taylor was wayyy too much given how he's played. It's just wild to be in a position where a player commits a penalty so much, it's accepted and the blame is in the ref for the 5% of the time they call it. Dude should have adjusted after he got 10 penalties his rookie year. But instead here we are, with him committing the same penalties except now they stall our offense which is already having a hard time finding footing.

And I can agree with you on what they are paying him vs producing. I am not going to say that all of his penalties are a product of the refs and he should have adjusted by now. He hasn’t and I am willing to give him an offseason to fix it. At the same time, if his alignment was such an issue why has Andy and Heck not fixed it either? I also am willing to acknowledge that at least the beginning of the season he had a target on his back.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by tredadda

And I can agree with you on what they are paying him vs producing. I am not going to say that all of his penalties are a product of the refs and he should have adjusted by now. He hasn’t and I am willing to give him an offseason to fix it. At the same time, if his alignment was such an issue why has Andy and Heck not fixed it either? I also am willing to acknowledge that at least the beginning of the season he had a target on his back.

Officials are pretty much letting his alignment issues go. He only has 2 penalties off that this year and I think they both came in week 1. The issue with the alignment is moreso it's forcing Trey Smith to have to block a bigger area and he's not good at that. He's more of a phone booth mauler type blocker and that's why he's being beat so often this year.