Chiefs Toub: Kadarius Toney remains in the mix - Page 5

**Tribal Warfare** · 02-02-2024, 12:34 PM

#Chiefs special teams coordinator Dave Toub says Kadarius Toney remains in the mix as a punt returner for #SuperBowl pic.twitter.com/DPIr6H9AYK
— Aaron Ladd (@aaronladdtv) February 2, 2024

IowaHawkeyeChief · 02-03-2024, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar

Anytime touchdown:

Pacheco -135
Kelce -110
Mahomes +400
MVS +600
KC Defense/Special teams +600
Watson +650
Moore +700
Hardman +1100
Toney +1200
Ross +1600
Bell +3000

Some weird odds in there. I thought Toney would be more remote since he hasn’t played in weeks.

I think they have to be active for the bet to be valid. They have Sky Moore listed too.

InChiefsHeaven · 02-03-2024, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

I'll take it

Yeah I mean...me too...

Eleazar · 02-03-2024, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

I think they have to be active for the bet to be valid. They have Sky Moore listed too.

Thanks. Not a gambler.

BWillie · 02-03-2024, 01:04 PM

I will chain myself to a tree outside of 1 Arrowhead Drive if they activate Toney.

GeorgeZimZam · 02-04-2024, 09:03 AM

Chiefs shouldn’t even consider using Kadarius Toney in Super Bowl

By Mark Cannizzaro
Published Feb. 3, 2024, 3:11 p.m. ET

Here’s some unsolicited advice to the Chiefs as they get ready to descend upon Sin City for Super Bowl 2024: Leave your problems at home.

More fair warning to the Kansas City decisions-makers: When you have a good thing going, don’t play with fire or you might get burned.

Few NFL head coaches have done a more masterful job of pushing the right buttons than Andy Reid has for the Chiefs, who are going to their fourth Super Bowl in the past five years. Reid is on the short list of greatest coaches in NFL history.

However, what Reid decides to do with Kadarius Toney — the Chiefs’ unpredictable, undependable, inconsistent, troubled receiver — is something that bears watching. Because, for the good of the rest of the players on his roster and his coaching staff, Reid should leave Toney in Kansas City when the team travels west to Last Vegas.

The 25-year-old receiver — who left a trail of aggravation in New York and New Jersey after the Giants drafted him in the 2021 first round and he was nothing but an extended migraine headache for the organization before Brian Daboll finally shipped him to Kansas City in 2022 — poses a threat to the Chiefs winning their third Super Bowl in five years.

Kadarius Toney at Chiefs practice on Feb. 1, 2024.
AP

If Toney is in Las Vegas and, more significantly, in uniform against the 49ers next Sunday at Allegiant Stadium, regardless of how tantalizing his talents may he, the risk is greater than reward for Reid.

Toney is only a week removed from going on that 45-second Instagram rant riddled with X-rated expletives accusing Reid and the Chiefs of being liars for putting him on the injury report with a hip injury and leaving him off the roster for the AFC Championship game at Baltimore.

Not only is calling out your boss as a liar in public an egregious — if not fireable — offense, the rant was posted on his social media account on the morning of the title game for optimal distraction value.

The rant, and its timing, was an intentional attempt to deter the Chiefs from beating the Ravens and advancing to the Super Bowl. If that’s not conduct detrimental to the team, then there’s no such thing.

Reid, addressing reporters this past week, said he saw the post and denied that the team lied about Toney having an injury.

“Yeah, well, obviously he’s been on the injury report,” Reid said. “So that part, that’s not made up by any means. But he’s been working through some things. He’ll be back out there.”

“Back out there,’’ meant on the practice field, which clearly greased the skids for Toney making the trip to Las Vegas and possibly playing in the game.

And that’s a risk the Chiefs shouldn’t be taking, because this player has shown, for his entire career to date, that he’s more trouble than he’s worth.

Andy Reid has a decision to make in regards to how he handles Kadarius Toney in the Super Bowl.
AP

Consider Toney’s body of work this season:

In the season opener, he let a pass slip through his arms, resulting in a pick-six in a one-point loss to the Lions.

In the Chiefs’ regular-season loss to the Bills, Toney was penalized for lining up offside, an infraction that nullified his own touchdown on a wild trick play that would have given them a lead late in the game.

At New England, a ball went off his hands for an interception — one of his two costly drops in the game.

Now, consider Toney’s regular-season production, which didn’t make anyone forget Tyreek Hill: 27 receptions on 38 targets for 169 yards and one TD.

And finally, consider that the Chiefs have won both of their games this postseason without Toney on the field.

Translation to all of the above: They don’t need him. So, move on.

Yet, there was Toney, off the injury report and on the practice field this past week. And there were his coaches speaking as if the potential plan is for him to play in the Super Bowl. Hopefully, for their sake, it’s all a smokescreen.

When Chiefs special teams coordinator Dave Toub was asked Friday if Toney would be used as a punt returner against the 49ers, he said, “There’s a possibility. That’s up to Coach [Reid]. He’s definitely in the mix, though.”

When Chiefs offensive coordinator Matt Nagy was asked about the Toney situation, he described it as a “day-by-day” evaluation, adding, “I thought he looked good’’ in practice.

Kadarius Toney drops a pass, leading to an interception, during the Chiefs’ win over the Patriots on Dec. 17, 2023.
Shutterstock

When the Chiefs acquired Toney from the Giants, they used him as a punt returner on occasion. His numbers were modest — until his game-changing 65-yard return that led to a TD in the Super Bowl win over the Eagles last February. Toney played just eight snaps in that Super Bowl, so they struck lightning with that punt return.

Now, in light of Toney’s latest inexcusable transgressions and the distractions that come with it, they’re in danger of being struck by lightning if he’s on the field.

https://nypost.com/2024/02/03/sports...per-bowl-2024/

ThyKingdomCome15 · 02-04-2024, 09:13 AM

Keep him off the field. He's a loser who can have a shot at redeeming himself next year in meaningless regular season games. This year is cooked.

CatfishBob2 · 02-04-2024, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleazar

Anytime touchdown:

Pacheco -135
Kelce -110
Mahomes +400
MVS +600
KC Defense/Special teams +600
Watson +650
Moore +700
Hardman +1100
Toney +1200
Ross +1600
Bell +3000

Some weird odds in there. I thought Toney would be more remote since he hasn’t played in weeks.

If I could find odds for a Toney td pass I'd be on it

Iconic · 02-04-2024, 09:18 AM

its crazy. the talent is there for him to be a complete difference maker. he just can't hold onto the ball and he's dumber than a doorknob.

just sad. i'd love to see a redemption arc but i think we are past that at this point.

Eleazar · 02-04-2024, 09:47 AM

Fans are emotional, but it’s always a question of your options and game plan. If they think Toney can bring something, like one big play as he did last time, or even one play they really like for this game schematically, maybe it’s worth having him active. They know what they’re doing.

KCUnited · 02-04-2024, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

I'm talking about his overall availability. Most thought he would be cut after his live instragram comments. If Andy isn't cutting him, he has his reasons.

Got it. I was commenting within the context of the OP.

**Bowser** · 02-04-2024, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleazar

Anytime touchdown:

Pacheco -135
Kelce -110
Mahomes +400
MVS +600
KC Defense/Special teams +600
Watson +650
Moore +700
Hardman +1100
Toney +1200
Ross +1600
Bell +3000

Some weird odds in there. I thought Toney would be more remote since he hasn’t played in weeks.

Hell, I'd throw ten bucks down on Bell having a TD.

TLO · 02-04-2024, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleazar

Anytime touchdown:

Pacheco -135
Kelce -110
Mahomes +400
MVS +600
KC Defense/Special teams +600
Watson +650
Moore +700
Hardman +1100
Toney +1200
Ross +1600
Bell +3000

Some weird odds in there. I thought Toney would be more remote since he hasn’t played in weeks.

No Noah Gray?

**ShortRoundChief** · 02-04-2024, 11:00 AM

No odds for Rice?

Coogs · 02-04-2024, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

No odds for Rice?

+140

https://www.covers.com/nfl/super-bow...20far%20behind.

Chiefshrink · 02-04-2024, 03:55 PM

Really depends IF Andy feels desperate IF he uses Toney IMO. If our offense regresses back to most of how our season was(regardless of big drops or mental lapses) or mimics SB 54 where we need a serious "JUMP"(up until 6:37 left to go in the game) Andy "will" utilize Toney's gifted abilities to hopefully make plays. But I don't think Andy just "flippantly" throws him in there IMO. It's 'only' if we are really struggling on offense to make plays.

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02-03-2024, 01:04 PM	#64
BWillie Are you ready to Rumble? Join Date: Apr 2006 Casino cash: $-1248759	I will chain myself to a tree outside of 1 Arrowhead Drive if they activate Toney.
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02-04-2024, 09:03 AM	#65
GeorgeZimZam Repeal the 19th Amendment Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: KC > ATX > RGV Casino cash: $1780400	Chiefs shouldn’t even consider using Kadarius Toney in Super Bowl By Mark Cannizzaro Published Feb. 3, 2024, 3:11 p.m. ET Here’s some unsolicited advice to the Chiefs as they get ready to descend upon Sin City for Super Bowl 2024: Leave your problems at home. More fair warning to the Kansas City decisions-makers: When you have a good thing going, don’t play with fire or you might get burned. Few NFL head coaches have done a more masterful job of pushing the right buttons than Andy Reid has for the Chiefs, who are going to their fourth Super Bowl in the past five years. Reid is on the short list of greatest coaches in NFL history. However, what Reid decides to do with Kadarius Toney — the Chiefs’ unpredictable, undependable, inconsistent, troubled receiver — is something that bears watching. Because, for the good of the rest of the players on his roster and his coaching staff, Reid should leave Toney in Kansas City when the team travels west to Last Vegas. The 25-year-old receiver — who left a trail of aggravation in New York and New Jersey after the Giants drafted him in the 2021 first round and he was nothing but an extended migraine headache for the organization before Brian Daboll finally shipped him to Kansas City in 2022 — poses a threat to the Chiefs winning their third Super Bowl in five years. Kadarius Toney at Chiefs practice on Feb. 1, 2024. AP If Toney is in Las Vegas and, more significantly, in uniform against the 49ers next Sunday at Allegiant Stadium, regardless of how tantalizing his talents may he, the risk is greater than reward for Reid. Toney is only a week removed from going on that 45-second Instagram rant riddled with X-rated expletives accusing Reid and the Chiefs of being liars for putting him on the injury report with a hip injury and leaving him off the roster for the AFC Championship game at Baltimore. Not only is calling out your boss as a liar in public an egregious — if not fireable — offense, the rant was posted on his social media account on the morning of the title game for optimal distraction value. The rant, and its timing, was an intentional attempt to deter the Chiefs from beating the Ravens and advancing to the Super Bowl. If that’s not conduct detrimental to the team, then there’s no such thing. Reid, addressing reporters this past week, said he saw the post and denied that the team lied about Toney having an injury. “Yeah, well, obviously he’s been on the injury report,” Reid said. “So that part, that’s not made up by any means. But he’s been working through some things. He’ll be back out there.” “Back out there,’’ meant on the practice field, which clearly greased the skids for Toney making the trip to Las Vegas and possibly playing in the game. And that’s a risk the Chiefs shouldn’t be taking, because this player has shown, for his entire career to date, that he’s more trouble than he’s worth. Andy Reid has a decision to make in regards to how he handles Kadarius Toney in the Super Bowl. AP Consider Toney’s body of work this season: In the season opener, he let a pass slip through his arms, resulting in a pick-six in a one-point loss to the Lions. In the Chiefs’ regular-season loss to the Bills, Toney was penalized for lining up offside, an infraction that nullified his own touchdown on a wild trick play that would have given them a lead late in the game. At New England, a ball went off his hands for an interception — one of his two costly drops in the game. Now, consider Toney’s regular-season production, which didn’t make anyone forget Tyreek Hill: 27 receptions on 38 targets for 169 yards and one TD. And finally, consider that the Chiefs have won both of their games this postseason without Toney on the field. Translation to all of the above: They don’t need him. So, move on. Yet, there was Toney, off the injury report and on the practice field this past week. And there were his coaches speaking as if the potential plan is for him to play in the Super Bowl. Hopefully, for their sake, it’s all a smokescreen. When Chiefs special teams coordinator Dave Toub was asked Friday if Toney would be used as a punt returner against the 49ers, he said, “There’s a possibility. That’s up to Coach [Reid]. He’s definitely in the mix, though.” When Chiefs offensive coordinator Matt Nagy was asked about the Toney situation, he described it as a “day-by-day” evaluation, adding, “I thought he looked good’’ in practice. Kadarius Toney drops a pass, leading to an interception, during the Chiefs’ win over the Patriots on Dec. 17, 2023. Shutterstock When the Chiefs acquired Toney from the Giants, they used him as a punt returner on occasion. His numbers were modest — until his game-changing 65-yard return that led to a TD in the Super Bowl win over the Eagles last February. Toney played just eight snaps in that Super Bowl, so they struck lightning with that punt return. Now, in light of Toney’s latest inexcusable transgressions and the distractions that come with it, they’re in danger of being struck by lightning if he’s on the field. https://nypost.com/2024/02/03/sports...per-bowl-2024/
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02-04-2024, 09:13 AM	#66
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02-04-2024, 09:18 AM	#68
Iconic It's just a ride. Join Date: Dec 2010 Casino cash: $1730360	its crazy. the talent is there for him to be a complete difference maker. he just can't hold onto the ball and he's dumber than a doorknob. just sad. i'd love to see a redemption arc but i think we are past that at this point. __________________ 12·12·11 回 RIP Turd Haley
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02-04-2024, 09:47 AM	#69
Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	Fans are emotional, but it’s always a question of your options and game plan. If they think Toney can bring something, like one big play as he did last time, or even one play they really like for this game schematically, maybe it’s worth having him active. They know what they’re doing.
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