Rumor: Creed & Butker getting new deals

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by PatMahomesIsGod

As argued previously, he probably get $6.5-7M per.

Counting the playoffs, Butkicker is the better kicker.

I'd give him 5/$35 without batting an eye.

He'd be the same age Tucker is now at the end of that deal and would be probably around the top 1/3 in terms of kicker salary.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Dunerdr

Tucker is 4/24. really pretty reasonable considering what Butkers done and the amount of points he puts up.

Butker has been the leading scorer for the Chiefs since he became the PK.

[Bump]

nice!

Creed is the best in the business

We don't win some of those Superbowls without clutch field goals

Worth

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Bump

nice!

Creed is the best in the business

We don't win some of those Superbowls without clutch field goals

Worth

We win 3 SBs if we don't have Creed.

We may only win 1 if we don't have Butker.

[el borracho]

I saw more pancake plays by Smith his first year here than the last few years combined. Not sure if he's still crushing dudes regularly and I'm just not seeing it or if his production has dropped since that first year. I know he has been hurt once or twice.

On a related note, I wish the Chiefs would start to trade some of these dudes as opposed to just letting them walk. Veach has proven he can draft. I would love to collect picks even if it meant losing out on a year of production from guys like Gay, Bolton and Smith.

[PatMahomesIsGod]

Originally Posted by el borracho

I saw more pancake plays by Smith his first year here than the last few years combined. Not sure if he's still crushing dudes regularly and I'm just not seeing it or if his production has dropped since that first year. I know he has been hurt once or twice.

On a related note, I wish the Chiefs would start to trade some of these dudes as opposed to just letting them walk. Veach has proven he can draft. I would love to collect picks even if it meant losing out on a year of production from guys like Gay, Bolton and Smith.

Guys in their 4th year have tons of surplus value (rookie salary versus the cost of a similar replacement FA). Think Sneed at $2.7M last year vs. his $19M AAV Titans contract. Gonna be difficult to impossible to get that back in trade.

Plus, that strategy would increase roster turnover every year. Lot more rookies for the coaches to bring up to speed.

[ChiefsFanatic]

So, I may be completely crazy, but I can see Creed and Smith both staying on the best deal the Chiefs can offer, because they will recognize the benefits of playing with Mahomes, and playing with their best friend.

I have a feeling that Trey Smith is going to work for the Kansas City Chiefs for the rest of his life, even after football. I feel like the way he talks and some of the things he has said in the many interviews I have seen, makes me feel like he just wants to be a Chief.

Or, I'm just letting my optimism leak out.

[Hoover]

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic

So, I may be completely crazy, but I can see Creed and Smith both staying on the best deal the Chiefs can offer, because they will recognize the benefits of playing with Mahomes, and playing with their best friend.

I have a feeling that Trey Smith is going to work for the Kansas City Chiefs for the rest of his life, even after football. I feel like the way he talks and some of the things he has said in the many interviews I have seen, makes me feel like he just wants to be a Chief.

Or, I'm just letting my optimism leak out.

Yeah, unfortunately it doesn't work that way.

Even in Smith is willing to work with the Chiefs on a contract, its still unlikely that it happens because signing Smith is going to cost you something. And that something is probably Karloftis or McDuffie. And lets be honest there two, keeping both of those guys isn't going to be easy either.

Trey Smith, even on a team friendly deal, is going to cost you around 20M a year. He's going to get paid what he's worth. Its not like he's going to play for 10M. Veach in the front office have to slot contacts by year, he's worried about the entire pie, not just every piece individually.

Even is Hollywood Brown blows up, its still going to be difficult to bring him back, even if he's willing to another one year contract because its all coming out of the same pot of money, which is why the Chiefs ability to draft is so damn important to the run they are on.

[Dante84]

If Karloftis' ascent to superstar happens this year (like I think it will) that 5th year option is so, so huge. Same w/ McDuffie (who is already elite).

Thuney's money/age combo doesn't make sense to Veach after this year, so he's likely gone.

Big questions are obviously going to be Smith & Bolton. If either of Nourzad or Hanson look like a stud in camp & preseason, that would make the Smith decision very easy on paper, despite the nostalgia factor.

Bolton is the tougher one for me. I don't see how we let him walk if he has another healthy/elite year. I do bet he tests the market as DJLN suggests, but I'd really like to find a way to keep him for that second deal. Could he be a tag candidate? I imagine the LB tag is affordable....

Other 2025 notable names:

- Justin Reid
- Charles Omenihu
- Hollywood Brown
- Noah Gray

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Dante84

If Karloftis' ascent to superstar happens this year (like I think it will) that 5th year option is so, so huge. Same w/ McDuffie (who is already elite).

Thuney's money/age combo doesn't make sense to Veach after this year, so he's likely gone.

Big questions are obviously going to be Smith & Bolton. If either of Nourzad or Hanson look like a stud in camp & preseason, that would make the Smith decision very easy on paper, despite the nostalgia factor.

Bolton is the tougher one for me. I don't see how we let him walk if he has another healthy/elite year. I do bet he tests the market as DJLN suggests, but I'd really like to find a way to keep him for that second deal. Could he be a tag candidate? I imagine the LB tag is affordable....

Other 2025 notable names:

- Justin Reid
- Charles Omenihu
- Hollywood Brown
- Noah Gray

Think they’ve done a good job preparing for this.

Justin Reid—>Jaden Hicks
Charles Omenihu—>FAU
Hollywood Brown—>Xavier Worthy
Noah Gray—>Jared Wiley

[Dante84]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Think they’ve done a good job preparing for this.

Justin Reid—>Jaden Hicks
Charles Omenihu—>FAU
Hollywood Brown—>Xavier Worthy
Noah Gray—>Jared Wiley

Agreed! Just gotta hope the young guys make these decisions easy on Veach.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Think they’ve done a good job preparing for this.

Justin Reid—>Jaden Hicks
Charles Omenihu—>FAU
Hollywood Brown—>Xavier Worthy
Noah Gray—>Jared Wiley

Hopefully Norzad is good enough, too.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Dante84

If Karloftis' ascent to superstar happens this year (like I think it will) that 5th year option is so, so huge. Same w/ McDuffie (who is already elite).

Thuney's money/age combo doesn't make sense to Veach after this year, so he's likely gone.

Big questions are obviously going to be Smith & Bolton. If either of Nourzad or Hanson look like a stud in camp & preseason, that would make the Smith decision very easy on paper, despite the nostalgia factor.

Bolton is the tougher one for me. I don't see how we let him walk if he has another healthy/elite year. I do bet he tests the market as DJLN suggests, but I'd really like to find a way to keep him for that second deal. Could he be a tag candidate? I imagine the LB tag is affordable....

Other 2025 notable names:

- Justin Reid
- Charles Omenihu
- Hollywood Brown
- Noah Gray

If Karlaftis goes to full on superstar as you say here....they'll probably look to pay him way before he gets to the 5th year option. Same with McDuffie.

I'd guess they both may end up extended ASAP if they continue on the track they're on.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

Originally Posted by O.city

If Karlaftis goes to full on superstar as you say here....they'll probably look to pay him way before he gets to the 5th year option. Same with McDuffie.

I'd guess they both may end up extended ASAP if they continue on the track they're on.

Literally every time I watch McDuffie play or even do an interview I walk away even more impressed with that dude. One of the best picks of the Veach era, and that's a very high bar. Fantastic player and incredibly solid person by all appearances. Needs to be a Chief for life.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks

Literally every time I watch McDuffie play or even do an interview I walk away even more impressed with that dude. One of the best picks of the Veach era, and that's a very high bar. Fantastic player and incredibly solid person by all appearances. Needs to be a Chief for life.

Yeah....I struggle to find a fault with the guy to be honest. He may end up being....shit I dunno the best Chief CB of all time?