Chiefs Bills-Ravens: win-win, lose-lose - Page 5

CupidStunt · 01-13-2025, 06:48 AM

Someone's gotta win. But someone's gotta lose too. Which fanbase better deserves the early exit?

Which QB needs it more? Lamar is 3-4 in the playoffs. Allen is 1-4 in non-wildcard games.

Which team would you rather beat in the AFCCG? Is that the same thing as the team you think we match up better against?

Frazod · 01-13-2025, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by loochy

What fanbase deserves an early exit? Well I kind of look at it like what fanbase deserves a win? I'd say the Bills....so many years of good teams and no Super Bowl wins. I feel for them. Of course, they're going to get downed on the road to the threepeat, but I'm just saying...

Pepe Silvia · 01-13-2025, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by loochy

What fanbase deserves an early exit? Well I kind of look at it like what fanbase deserves a win? I'd say the Bills....so many years of good teams and no Super Bowl wins. I feel for them. Of course, they're going to get downed on the road to the threepeat, but I'm just saying...

They need to be known for Buffalo Wings and that's it. They should be happy with that.

Chief_N_Bama · 01-13-2025, 05:25 PM

I dont understand how there is more hate for the Bills than the ravens. The ravens are consistently picked over us. Lamar is the most frequent qb ranked ahead of Mahomes. The media has done more to prop up Baltimore during the Chiefs dynasty than any other team. The media narrative is that the ravens beat themselves last year in the AFCCG. If the ravens wins a Super Bowl you can guarantee there will be Lamar is better than Mahomes talk.

Plus, as a once long suffering Chiefs fan I can sympathize with Bills fans. Ravens fans on the other hand l act like they’ve won 10 super bowls. If not the Chiefs I wouldn’t mind the Bills winning it all. The ravens winning their 3rd would make an already snobbish fan base worse.

Coochie liquor · 01-13-2025, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama

I dont understand how there is more hate for the Bills than the ravens. The ravens are consistently picked over us. Lamar is the most frequent qb ranked ahead of Mahomes. The media has done more to prop up Baltimore during the Chiefs dynasty than any other team. The media narrative is that the ravens beat themselves last year in the AFCCG. If the ravens wins a Super Bowl you can guarantee there will be Lamar is better than Mahomes talk.

Plus, as a once long suffering Chiefs fan I can sympathize with Bills fans. Ravens fans on the other hand l act like they’ve won 10 super bowls. If not the Chiefs I wouldn’t mind the Bills winning it all. The ravens winning their 3rd would make an already snobbish fan base worse.

I don’t really watch too much media. But their fans are like Bengals fans, insufferable with an empty trophy case. Their fans need to bend the ****ing knee, and quit the AlLeN iS bEtTeR tHaN mAhOmEs narrative they spew incessantly. But honestly even us winning 3 in a row, while beating them 2 of the 3 times on both fields, they’ll still find a way to rate Allen higher. **** their fat ass, neck beard having, dildo throwing, child cancer survivor berating, ass fingering, 4 time straight Super Bowl losing, table smashing, secondary character, ringless ****ing fans in the ass with Jackson Mahomes dick! Their fans are the worst. And I hope if they make it to Arrowhead they’re treated like that cancer survivor was treated in their stadium.

**** the Bills and their fans!

MahomesMagic · 01-13-2025, 06:22 PM

Baltimore has more talent.

Buffalo has a known ceiling for how well they can perform. Give me Buffalo.

Imagine hitting them with RPO over and over with Hollywood and Rapp or Hamlin trying to make that tackle in the open field.

RunKC · 01-13-2025, 06:42 PM

I think Buffalo wins this one bc it’s at home and Josh Allen is a better playoff QB than Lamar.

I hope the Ravens upset them though bc we are the worst possible matchup for the Ravens

DJay23 · 01-13-2025, 07:37 PM

I'm back and forth on who I'd rather the Chiefs play so I'm not going to worry about it.

As far as the fanbase I want to win or lose it has to do with who I know personally. I know 1 Ravens fan who I run into maybe 5 times a year and he's a good dude.

My girlfriend's entire family is from Elmira and Rochester, NY. So they are all huge Bills fans. It has been really fun for me to talk football with them, me having the upper hand. I would hate to lose to them and lose a little of that. But if you're telling me the Bills could get to the Super Bowl without the Chiefs losing to the Bills (we lose Saturday) I would pull for Bills fans. It's fun having a Chicago Cubs/cursed franchise to beat up, but the people I know are good people and I would love for them to feel that feeling. Especially my girlfriend's dad.

jerryaldini · 01-13-2025, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CupidStunt

Someone's gotta win. But someone's gotta lose too.

Some gotta win, some gotta lose. Good time Charlie's got the blues

ReynardMuldrake · 01-13-2025, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KCBlitz

You should visit twobillsdrive. It’ll probably change your mind.

I can't hate Bills fans. They've been suffering for as long as we have and have nothing to show for it.

Ravens fans have never known suffering. As soon as their team was founded they turned around and won a championship. Ravens fans are like that spoiled rich kid whose dad buys them whatever they want. I respect the team, but I've never respected the fans.

ForeverIowan · 01-13-2025, 09:58 PM

That Bills team, their coaches, their fans, that entire franchise is obsessed with the Kansas City Chiefs. It is their Mt. Everest. I truly think Sean McDermott and that coaching staff has studied the Chiefs endlessly. I think McDermott realizes under NO CIRCUMSTANCES do you allow the the Chiefs and Mahomes to end the game with the ball in their hands with a chance to win. They will play extremely unconventional and take outside the box risks late in the game to ensure that does not happen. It helps to take those unconventional risks when you have this seasons MVP under center as well. Make no mistake Josh Allen is a better QB than Lamar Jackson. By far!

My head says the Ravens are the better matchup for us and I know that is the correct answer. My heart says let's see another all-timer against the Bills and let Mahomes/Reid crush the soul of that franchise and fanbase for good!

IowaHawkeyeChief · 01-13-2025, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire

The Bills just lack guys on defense. They have good players at every level and they play well to their scheme but they don’t have any true difference makers. And their DL just lacks size, and has for years, and it’s been their biggest issue come playoff time. And before someone says “what??? rousseau and epenesa are 6’7 and 6’6 how do they lack size??” well they’re also barely above 250. look at what the ravens have in the middle. Pierce is within a 100lbs of those two combined. Then you have Matubouike and Jones who are 315+. Ed oliver is tiny and Von Miller is a million years old.

I just dont like the matchup for Buffalo. They’ve been relying on their 6 man front to run the ball in chunks and against the Ravens I don’t think it’ll make a difference. The best matchup the Bills have is their passing offense vs the Ravens passing D. It’s gonna be hard to move the ball at will if they can’t get the running game going, though. Bills in 2nd and 8 and 3rd and 7 all day is gonna be tough.

My feel might change as we get closer to the game but right now I’m feeling a comfortable Ravens win, 36-23

That said, if Allen can have an all time great performance, the Bills might be able to overcome all of the bad matchups. And he’s certainly capable of that. I might change my pick by Friday but I don’t think the disadvantage for the Bills in my mind will change.

Good news is that if the Ravens win, Harbaugh is going to ride Henry and limit Allen's possessions. The Bills rush defense is god awful. I think Henry will have something like 32 for 209 or something, and that's some late season wear and tear for the AFCCG.

ForeverIowan · 01-13-2025, 10:04 PM

Spags will confuse Lamar and cause him to make 3 or 4 dumb ass decisions throughout the game that will kill drives. Josh Allen is just on another level right now. You know dang well a Chiefs/Bills game will be an absolute freaking nail biter. Last QB to get the ball wins.

UChieffyBugger · 01-14-2025, 01:39 AM

Just looking at some Bills media content on youtube and the narrative from two channels I saw is.

1. These are the two best qb's the afc/league

2. This is the afc superbowl

3. They want the Chiefs to win so they can beat the Ravens and then go and slay the dragon.

I really can't stand both of these teams tbh but those Bills folks really are something smh.

Red Dawg · 01-14-2025, 05:22 AM

Ravens have 2 TE that can do damage. We don't cover that position we'll and LJ runs better. Give me Buffalo.

seamonster · 01-14-2025, 05:26 AM

I just can't take Buffalo's middling undersized d-line seriously. On paper Baltimore should beat the complete shit out of that defensive line and own the football for most of the game. And good riddance with Buffalo and their whining and Josh Allen's flops. He plays like a euro soccer player. NFL should implement an embellishment penalty just to keep him from embarrassing himself and the league.

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CupidStunt offense > defense Join Date: Jul 2005 Casino cash: $-666668	Bills-Ravens: win-win, lose-lose Someone's gotta win. But someone's gotta lose too. Which fanbase better deserves the early exit? Which QB needs it more? Lamar is 3-4 in the playoffs. Allen is 1-4 in non-wildcard games. Which team would you rather beat in the AFCCG? Is that the same thing as the team you think we match up better against?
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01-13-2025, 05:25 PM	#63
Chief_N_Bama Starter Join Date: Nov 2018 Casino cash: $6600400	I dont understand how there is more hate for the Bills than the ravens. The ravens are consistently picked over us. Lamar is the most frequent qb ranked ahead of Mahomes. The media has done more to prop up Baltimore during the Chiefs dynasty than any other team. The media narrative is that the ravens beat themselves last year in the AFCCG. If the ravens wins a Super Bowl you can guarantee there will be Lamar is better than Mahomes talk. Plus, as a once long suffering Chiefs fan I can sympathize with Bills fans. Ravens fans on the other hand l act like they’ve won 10 super bowls. If not the Chiefs I wouldn’t mind the Bills winning it all. The ravens winning their 3rd would make an already snobbish fan base worse.
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MahomesMagic Generational Player Join Date: May 2017 Location: Honolulu Casino cash: $540400	Baltimore has more talent. Buffalo has a known ceiling for how well they can perform. Give me Buffalo. Imagine hitting them with RPO over and over with Hollywood and Rapp or Hamlin trying to make that tackle in the open field.
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01-13-2025, 07:37 PM	#67
DJay23 Rock Chalk Jayhawk Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: PA Casino cash: $-366683	I'm back and forth on who I'd rather the Chiefs play so I'm not going to worry about it. As far as the fanbase I want to win or lose it has to do with who I know personally. I know 1 Ravens fan who I run into maybe 5 times a year and he's a good dude. My girlfriend's entire family is from Elmira and Rochester, NY. So they are all huge Bills fans. It has been really fun for me to talk football with them, me having the upper hand. I would hate to lose to them and lose a little of that. But if you're telling me the Bills could get to the Super Bowl without the Chiefs losing to the Bills (we lose Saturday) I would pull for Bills fans. It's fun having a Chicago Cubs/cursed franchise to beat up, but the people I know are good people and I would love for them to feel that feeling. Especially my girlfriend's dad. __________________ "True bliss is not something you search for, true bliss is already living inside us all, and sometimes it takes a roomfull of others to lead us to the mirror of your soul." - CosmicPal (10-3-03)
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ForeverIowan Veteran Join Date: Dec 2018 Casino cash: $-469600	That Bills team, their coaches, their fans, that entire franchise is obsessed with the Kansas City Chiefs. It is their Mt. Everest. I truly think Sean McDermott and that coaching staff has studied the Chiefs endlessly. I think McDermott realizes under NO CIRCUMSTANCES do you allow the the Chiefs and Mahomes to end the game with the ball in their hands with a chance to win. They will play extremely unconventional and take outside the box risks late in the game to ensure that does not happen. It helps to take those unconventional risks when you have this seasons MVP under center as well. Make no mistake Josh Allen is a better QB than Lamar Jackson. By far! My head says the Ravens are the better matchup for us and I know that is the correct answer. My heart says let's see another all-timer against the Bills and let Mahomes/Reid crush the soul of that franchise and fanbase for good!
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01-13-2025, 10:04 PM	#72
ForeverIowan Veteran Join Date: Dec 2018 Casino cash: $-469600	Spags will confuse Lamar and cause him to make 3 or 4 dumb ass decisions throughout the game that will kill drives. Josh Allen is just on another level right now. You know dang well a Chiefs/Bills game will be an absolute freaking nail biter. Last QB to get the ball wins.
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01-14-2025, 01:39 AM	#73
UChieffyBugger CP'S "MOST HATED" 😆 Join Date: Feb 2018 Casino cash: $-939600	Just looking at some Bills media content on youtube and the narrative from two channels I saw is. 1. These are the two best qb's the afc/league 2. This is the afc superbowl 3. They want the Chiefs to win so they can beat the Ravens and then go and slay the dragon. I really can't stand both of these teams tbh but those Bills folks really are something smh. Last edited by UChieffyBugger; 01-14-2025 at 02:03 AM..
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01-14-2025, 05:22 AM	#74
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01-14-2025, 05:26 AM	#75
seamonster Veteran Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $3665409	I just can't take Buffalo's middling undersized d-line seriously. On paper Baltimore should beat the complete shit out of that defensive line and own the football for most of the game. And good riddance with Buffalo and their whining and Josh Allen's flops. He plays like a euro soccer player. NFL should implement an embellishment penalty just to keep him from embarrassing himself and the league.
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