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Old 05-18-2004, 08:38 AM  
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Shannon Sharpe vs. Tony Gonzalez career stats.
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Old 05-18-2004, 12:53 PM   #61
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Honestly..its waaay too early...but potentially, Winslow Jr. has all the "tools" to be a great one. Dude looks as smooth as a Wideout when he runs.
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Old 05-18-2004, 12:55 PM   #62
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As much as it kills me this guy has great numbers in his first 2 years. He has far better numbers then Gonzo avg wise.


Year Team G GS No Yards Avg Lg TD 20+ 40+ FD
2002 New York Giants 15 14 74 894 12.1 30 2 16 0 49
2003 New York Giants 9 9 48 535 11.1 46 2 6 1 29
TOTAL 24 23 122 1429 11.7 46 4 22 1 78
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Old 05-18-2004, 12:58 PM   #63
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Honestly..its waaay too early...but potentially, Winslow Jr. has all the "tools" to be a great one. Dude looks as smooth as a Wideout when he runs.

You are right about that. .
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Old 05-18-2004, 12:59 PM   #64
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As much as it kills me this guy has great numbers in his first 2 years. He has far better numbers then Gonzo avg wise.


Year Team G GS No Yards Avg Lg TD 20+ 40+ FD
2002 New York Giants 15 14 74 894 12.1 30 2 16 0 49
2003 New York Giants 9 9 48 535 11.1 46 2 6 1 29
TOTAL 24 23 122 1429 11.7 46 4 22 1 78
This is Shockey right? Ill admit...hes a talent..and better after the catch than Gonzo. Has a 2 cent head though.
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Old 05-18-2004, 01:03 PM   #65
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This is Shockey right? Ill admit...hes a talent..and better after the catch than Gonzo. Has a 2 cent head though.

Yes as much as it hurts it is him.
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Old 05-18-2004, 01:14 PM   #66
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Alot could go into this argument. Is this just based on pass catching ability? Or do we look at the total package, including blocking ability?
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Old 05-18-2004, 01:16 PM   #67
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Sharpe has blocked for 7 or 8 1000 yard backs.
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Old 05-18-2004, 01:17 PM   #68
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Sharpe has blocked for 7 or 8 1000 yard backs.
Good point Garcia
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Old 05-18-2004, 01:22 PM   #69
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Don't get me wrong...Sharpe ain't the best blocking TE out there...but he got the job done. TG can block better IMO, but what does that mean in the end whenh you don't win the Super Bowl.
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Old 05-18-2004, 01:23 PM   #70
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Don't get me wrong...Sharpe ain't the best blocking TE out there...but he got the job done. TG can block better IMO, but what does that mean in the end whenh you don't win the Super Bowl.
Not Tony G's fault we should have gone to the Super Bow last year. Unfortunately, he cant tackle and play defense. God, if only we would have hired Gunther a year ago!
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Old 05-18-2004, 01:28 PM   #71
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It's a fun debate. Sharpe grew into being a better than average blocking TE. He didn't know much his first few years, but really grew into the position.

The TE position is definitely getting better from a quality standpoint, for the longest time it's really maybe been 3-4 tier 1 TEs. Now you have KWII and the two guys named Ben that were just drafted. Add them to the likes of Gonzo, Shockey, Heap and a couple of guys that are improving in the league like Franks, Pollard and a couple of others.

There are a number of potentially great young TEs out there waiting to burst onto the scene.
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Old 05-18-2004, 01:29 PM   #72
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Not Tony G's fault we should have gone to the Super Bow last year. Unfortunately, he cant tackle and play defense. God, if only we would have hired Gunther a year ago!
Well, we will soon find out if it was GRob's system or the players...
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Old 05-18-2004, 01:31 PM   #73
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Well, we will soon find out if it was GRob's system or the players...
Exactly! you should know how bad GRobs system is though. He got fired there as well did he not?
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The one thing Gonzo has going for him is Romanowski's retirement...
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Exactly! you should know how bad GRobs system is though. He got fired there as well did he not?
Right - but during his tenure, the team did buy into his system. The final year, the defensive rankings dropped into the 20's, but prior to that he had some nice defensive players and they were ranked in the top 12 of the league. During the SB years - the defense was top 12 and higher.
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