***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

But they are going to busy with surgeries in the OR. RT's usually run the vents in the OR, they are monitoring the patient. I'm assuming that the RT's are pulled out to run vents elsewhere and the Anesthesia doctors will have to run their own ventilators in the ER.

Not sure what places you are referring to but that’s not the case anywhere around here. No RTs in the OR.

That’s part of why they have gotten rid of elective surgeries. Anesthesia staff are doing next to nothing right now at KU Med and probably other places as well. So much so they are keeping people home in reserve, still paying them, and reducing weekend staff. Surgeons are moving some of these cases to outpatient surgery centers since hospitals aren’t taking them.

[Kman34]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Indeed 10 people and counting have been booted out of the thread so far. Putting that into context, I believe 9 were in the first few days, one yesterday. Overall people have done a great job keeping it non political, and I tip my hat to them, but there are still a few seeing how far they can push their luck. It's a great thread, so if you want to stick around, please play by the rules.

Perhaps an UV light to kill the “germs”..

[kstater]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Sorry, America, the Full Lockdown Is Coming



Politicians won’t admit it yet, but it’s time to prepare—physically and psychologically—for a sudden stop to all life outside your home.





https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/03/18...ckdown-coming/



how many more days do you guys think until we are in a full lockdown nation wide ?

My gut has told me all week that it's next Monday. Either nationally or Kansas/Metro area

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[neech]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

During flu season, I'd take off my clothes in the garage, use shoes only for work.

I just had an awful visual seared into my brain.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Sorry, America, the Full Lockdown Is Coming

Politicians won’t admit it yet, but it’s time to prepare—physically and psychologically—for a sudden stop to all life outside your home.

This is ridiculous.

[displacedinMN]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

During flu season, I'd take off my clothes in the garage, use shoes only for work. Put the clothes in a specific place and wash them myself. Wash my hands in the basement before going upstairs to the family. I'm sure thats not unique. We are around infected people all day. You have to be careful not to bring it home to your family. I'm sure the DIL is doing something similar.

stay away from the grinders, torches and power tools
unless you like that sort of thing.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

This is ridiculous.

Italy has been in a full lockdown for 10 days and it's still not slowed down yet.


if we reach italy heights what other choice do we have ?

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

yeah i'm not sure people are even reading whats being written...


people can go to the store, pharmacy, even for a jog outside...

Yesterday we weren't on "Shelter in Place".

Today we are.

The difference? Nothing.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

This is ridiculous.

People are way more dangerous than the virus itself. Panic is the enemy, here.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Italy has been in a full lockdown for 10 days and it's still not slowed down yet.


if we reach italy heights what other choice do we have ?

I was referring to the bolded.

[Discuss Thrower]

Stop me if you ****ing heard this one, but the Chinese government is probably lying.

Yahoo's interpolation of the above link with other information.

[Kman34]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Sorry, America, the Full Lockdown Is Coming

Politicians won’t admit it yet, but it’s time to prepare—physically and psychologically—for a sudden stop to all life outside your home.


https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/03/18...ckdown-coming/

how many more days do you guys think until we are in a full lockdown nation wide ?

Marshal law would have to be in affect to enforce this and I don’t see it..

[Donger]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Saw a video of a Chinese doctor who worked on the Wuhan outbreak who had gone to help the Italians. He was aghast that they were still going to grocery stores and pharmacies and for walks outside and essentially said that you have to stay inside to really curtail the spread.

Don’t know if he knows what he’s talking about or not but I’ve never understood how you stop the spread of this if people are still congregating at grocery stores. One person who is infected touches an item and its capable of being transmitted.

He said this, too:

you're still having dinners and parties in the hotels

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

It should be noted that US infection numbers are off where they were at this time yesterday. We knew we would get a spike from more testing but need to see more data thru the day to see if yesterday’s 4500+ cases was an anomaly.

Today is not off from yesterday. 4.5k cases confirmed yesterday. Today so far about 2200 so far.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

This.


Elective surgery has been canceled all over the USA.

I've been trying to prepare for two surgeries since before this all happened. Now...I'm going to do my best to put those off as long as I can.