***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Dartgod]

Why does the media do this (don't answer, I know why)? That's not even close to doubling.

Originally Posted by Fish

Missouri coronavirus cases nearly double, from 28 to 47

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — The number of COVID-19 cases in Missouri nearly doubled on Friday, going from 28 to to 47, as officials throughout the state sought to get ahead of the coronavirus crisis.

State health officials said St. Louis County and Kansas City have the most cases, with seven each, while Greene County has six. Pulaski, Scott and St. Charles counties each reported their first cases. A person in Boone County is the state’s only known death from the virus.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Donger

Masks don't do jack shit. Stop listening to the ****ing media.

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...&postcount=821

Not true at all. Surgical masks don't do much except help not spread the virus if you ARE infected. N95 masks absolutely help. In fact, it's the opposite. The media was spreading false info saying to not use them, to protect them from ourselves so people wouldn't stock pile them.

When 80%+ of Covid-19 cases are transmitted being near someone speaking, sneezing, coughing as a result of droplets any little bit can help. Even a scarf would help to some degree, but I do acknowledge it would provide very little additional protection albeit some.

Our medical personal don't wear masks & N95 masks because they are bored. They ABSOLUTELY work, they just are not fail proof. Any other propaganda or people saying masks do not HELP is just completely false. Period.

If PPE didn't work, then people who work in restoration & the contamination business wouldn't use them, either.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

Why does the media do this (don't answer, I know why)? That's not even close to doubling.

Well, they did say "nearly".....but I agree with you. The headlines anymore read like the world is ending.

[Hammock Parties]

BREAKING: Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker will issue a shelter in place order later today, essentially commanding all residents to stay in their homes as officials take drastic measures to slow the spread of the coronavirus. Effective Saturday.https://t.co/BdGduoMqJ8

— Gregory Pratt (@royalpratt) March 20, 2020

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

My wife mentioned off-hand at a wedding in 2014 that I was going thin on top. I had no idea, and always bought into the "mom's dad" line of genetic bullshit.

I immediately ran into the bathroom and started trying to take pics of the top of my head. I scrolled through the unfocused, shaky images like they were frames from Zapruder's camera.

"It's just a cowlick," I told myself. My aunt, who owns a salon, said the same.

She was lying, and I was in denial for about 18 months. I figure after we get through all this shit I'll just keep it buzzed. No point in treating a Tyler Palko hairline like it's Mahomes.

I've been using Rogaine for 20 years - seems to have stopped the widow's peaks and maybe even grown back some of the back-middle spot (which my 4 uncles on my Mom's side all have).

[Stanley Nickels]

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP

Why would anyone believe the Chinese government they’ve lied this whole time and trying to cover it up.

Believe them about what? The draconian lockdown? That was pretty well documented by journalists on the scene, and by maps showing NO2 emissions during the quarantine. We're in the "rock and a hard place" scenario here-- Draconian lockdowns would stop the spread of this virus (this time around) but we won't (and probably shouldn't) take those types of steps in the West.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

BREAKING: Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker will issue a shelter in place order later today, essentially commanding all residents to stay in their homes as officials take drastic measures to slow the spread of the coronavirus. Effective Saturday.https://t.co/BdGduoMqJ8

— Gregory Pratt (@royalpratt) March 20, 2020

You have been "commanded"!!!

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Not true at all. Surgical masks don't do much except help not spread the virus if you ARE infected. N95 masks absolutely help. In fact, it's the opposite. The media was spreading false info saying to not use them, to protect them from ourselves so people wouldn't stock pile them.

When 80%+ of Covid-19 cases are transmitted being near someone speaking, sneezing, coughing as a result of droplets any little bit can help. Even a scarf would help to some degree, but I do acknowledge it would provide very little additional protection albeit some.

Our medical personal don't wear masks & N95 masks because they are bored. They ABSOLUTELY work, they just are not fail proof. Any other propaganda or people saying masks do not HELP is just completely false. Period.

If PPE didn't work, then people who work in restoration & the contamination business wouldn't use them, either.

Yep. Want to revise now, pete?

[Stanley Nickels]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

My wife mentioned off-hand at a wedding in 2014 that I was going thin on top. I had no idea, and always bought into the "mom's dad" line of genetic bullshit.

I immediately ran into the bathroom and started trying to take pics of the top of my head. I scrolled through the unfocused, shaky images like they were frames from Zapruder's camera.

"It's just a cowlick," I told myself. My aunt, who owns a salon, said the same.

She was lying, and I was in denial for about 18 months. I figure after we get through all this shit I'll just keep it buzzed. No point in treating a Tyler Palko hairline like it's Mahomes.

Grass doesn't grow on a busy street. A rolling stone gathers no moss. QED.

[Hammock Parties]

My local Costco is out of Eggo waffles. A man & woman reached for the last box at the same time. Though he was there first by about 2 secs, the woman insisted they should go to her & her children. I KID YOU NOT, the man, who had his 2 teens w/him, replied, "Ma'am, leggo my Eggo."

— Emily R. King (@Emily_R_King) March 19, 2020

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

BREAKING: Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker will issue a shelter in place order later today, essentially commanding all residents to stay in their homes as officials take drastic measures to slow the spread of the coronavirus. Effective Saturday.https://t.co/BdGduoMqJ8

— Gregory Pratt (@royalpratt) March 20, 2020

Three of the most populous states in America will now effectively have their citizens on virtual house arrest.

North Korea-style, draconian governance policies on full display.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

I can relate this situation to raising hogs as we had to deal with disease all the time. We've vaccinated for coronavirus for years although it was a different strain.

What the Hog industry found out many years ago is that the higher the population within a barn the more rampant a virus would be on the herd. the [U]microbial density magnifies the higher the population in a confined area.[U]

We learned to NOT keep hogs in rooms with a population of 5000 and to reduce the room size to a population of 500.

I would think the same holds true with humans. People living in densely populated areas( NY,LA,etc...) are going to get hit the hardest. People living and working rural will not be affected so much.

[KCGal]

I heard the national guard is mobilizing at arrowhead on the radio. Anybody hear that?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Three of the most populous states in America will now effectively have their citizens on virtual house arrest.

North Korea-style, draconian governance policies on full display.

Stop it.

Residents can still go to the grocery stores, put gas in their cars, take walks outside and make pharmacy runs. All local roads, including the interstate highways and tollways, will remain open to traffic, as well.

Suburban Oak Park also issued a shelter-in-place order as of 12:01 a.m. Friday, after two emergency room physicians at Rush Oak Park Hospital tested positive for COVID-19. Residents have been ordered to stay in their homes except for “essential” travel as outlined by village ordinance. They can go to work, for example, if their businesses remain open, especially if they have essential jobs such as first responders, sanitation workers or health care providers.

[Hammock Parties]

National guard at FedEx field setting up. Here we go. 🥴 pic.twitter.com/comXwvSv6X

— PlusModelParis 📸 (@X_LadyP) March 20, 2020