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Old 03-24-2022, 01:51 PM  
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Old 10-11-2022, 10:02 AM   #781
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Yeah alot of people on CP did. In fact, he is our #1 WR right now and thats pretty scary. There are 20 to 25 teams that have not one but two WRs better than any of the ones we got.

I don't think we are quite Super Bowl ready with our WR corp. This team is one #1 WR away from winning a SB imo. Eventually relying on TEs and RBs to throw virtually all your TDs to will catch up with you.
Are you ever correct? I would bet more expected JuJu to be the primary WR not MVS.
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Old 10-11-2022, 10:09 AM   #782
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To me, I'd rather see MVS develop as one of the go-to guys as opposed to JSS. Having both preform at a high level would be fantastic, but we have JSS on a one year rental. I don't anticipate seeing him playing as a Chief next year. There's a caveat to that... He may be a Chief if Veach sees the value and JSS has a change in what I perceived as his attitude to start the season. My perception was that JSS was signing with KC to boost his market value for a year before heading into free agency.
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Old 10-11-2022, 10:18 AM   #783
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Are you ever correct? I would bet more expected JuJu to be the primary WR not MVS.
I predicted Juju but many (not all or most but quite a few) thought MVS would get all the big deep plays ala Hill. Hell, he still might end up as the #1 at end of season. Hes #1 now.
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Old 10-11-2022, 10:22 AM   #784
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I predicted Juju but many (not all or most but quite a few) thought MVS would get all the big deep plays ala Hill. Hell, he still might end up as the #1 at end of season. Hes #1 now.
you're living in the past, man.

the 'deep plays ala Hill' didn't even happen for Hill with any regularity.

this short and intermediate stuff is what there is.

If we show the discipline to do this, then deep shots will open up.

But it will never again be 2019.
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I hot take'd MVS as being our leading WR by season's end. I might notch the W on that one.
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Old 10-11-2022, 10:25 AM   #786
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you're living in the past, man.

the 'deep plays ala Hill' didn't even happen for Hill with any regularity.

this short and intermediate stuff is what there is.

If we show the discipline to do this, then deep shots will open up.

But it will never again be 2019.
The Chiefs caught the league in between in 2018 and 2019. I remember the articles when Mahomes set the league on fire - about how while the rest of the league was focusing on the short passing game, the Chiefs were out there bombing away.

They were unicorns. Nobody was doing it because nobody had the firepower or the will to try.

Mahomes proved you could do it and the sudden influx of young passers with rocket arms made it more and more common.

It took the league a couple of years to adapt, but adapt they did. Offenses saw it was still possible to challenge downfield and defenses had to be aware of it again. And in the end, downfield passes are HARD. So if you focus on preventing them, it's actually pretty easy to do so.

Unless/until the league shifts back to where it was a few years ago, we won't see that kind of arcade performance from PM. And frankly, we probably still won't. Having a prime Kelce, prime/cheap Hill and luxury WR2 like Watkins just doesn't happen very often. You need some luck in the draft AND a cost-controlled QB. Well obviously we ain't gonna have the latter again for a loooooooong time.
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you're living in the past, man.

the 'deep plays ala Hill' didn't even happen for Hill with any regularity.

this short and intermediate stuff is what there is.

If we show the discipline to do this, then deep shots will open up.

But it will never again be 2019.
Im happy with mvs. He's running a much more complex route tree and more intermediate routes than he did in gb. We have him for a while so him coming into his own would be ideal
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Im happy with mvs. He's running a much more complex route tree and more intermediate routes than he did in gb. We have him for a while so him coming into his own would be ideal
And the dividends may last longer than we realize.

You want guys coming here to rehab their stock? You want to try to make a value play on DJ Chark next year, for instance?

Get MVS playing at career high levels.

If you can convince a height/speed animal like Chark that he's been held back in the same ways MVS was in GB and that Reid/Mahomes can unlock that latent talent, that's how you get this WR corps rebuilt in a cost-effective manner. ESPECIALLY if you can find the sweet spot on some guys who want something of a pillow contract but will sign a 2-3 year deal at the same time.

These are the kinds of experiments that can have lasting ramifications as far as team-building are concerned. MVS succeeding here would be massive.
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I hot take'd MVS as being our leading WR by season's end. I might notch the W on that one.
His 6 rec for 116 and that monster td in the afccg is a pretty ****ing good exhibit A.

We don't win that game without MVS balling out that game.
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His 6 rec for 116 and that monster td in the afccg is a pretty ****ing good exhibit A.

We don't win that game without MVS balling out that game.
Exactly. He was nails that game. And also the Bengals secondary is pretty damn good.
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Exactly. He was nails that game. And also the Bengals secondary is pretty damn good.
I don't know that spanking Eli Apple all day is anything to pound your chest over, but for a guy with questionable hands and route tree coming into KC, he beasted out when given his opportunities.

There are a lot of throws this past season that if Patrick got a mulligan on, MVS has a pretty explosive highlight reel on the year.

The chemistry can only get better. When they finally truly click, MVS is gonna be scary.
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MVS's AFC Championship game performance got me to wondering. Do you guys think in the same situation, would Hardman have had a 100 yard game? I think I know the answer but I'm curious what you guys think.
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I don't know that spanking Eli Apple all day is anything to pound your chest over, but for a guy with questionable hands and route tree coming into KC, he beasted out when given his opportunities.

There are a lot of throws this past season that if Patrick got a mulligan on, MVS has a pretty explosive highlight reel on the year.

The chemistry can only get better. When they finally truly click, MVS is gonna be scary.
I hope so.

But MVS had plenty of of chances with Aaron and never seemed to have great chemistry with him either?
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MVS's AFC Championship game performance got me to wondering. Do you guys think in the same situation, would Hardman have had a 100 yard game? I think I know the answer but I'm curious what you guys think.
No, because I don't think Patrick looks to him the same way he looked to MVS. Hardmans awareness is ASS. A giant frothy jar of ASS.

Like throwing the ball to Hardman, 5 things can happen and 4 of them are bad.
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