Off-season WR possibilities

[Reerun_KC]

Seeing a lot of teams with sub .500 records with WRs that need to get with Mahomes.

Who is available and who would you like to see us pursue to go with Rice and Watson.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Are you saying you think Ridley is better?

I’m not sure I see that. He’s been healthier this year and has more yards, but he hasn’t exactly lot things on fire in Jacksonville. He’s been good, but he hasn’t been the dynamo I think many expected him to be.

I think brown is way more dynamic but what mahomes needs most is a steady veteran. We have a lot of speed but what we lack is consistency and I don't see Hollywood giving us that. Ridley actually kind of perfectly fits what we need - target eater but fast enough to be a threat downfield. And that kind of Swiss army knife will be difficult to find and unless we draft for it will take a very long time for Reid to work in.

We still need speed options but with ridley and rice, arguably we can get some value out of specialists like toney as a gadget or mecole as a speed option. Or, more preferably, we can draft a speed option who can contribute right away

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I’m not sure they do. They have some cap issues and he hasn’t taken their offense to a new level. It looked basically the same as before to me.

Well, we will see.

If Ridley is moved they can tag him and the you are paying draft capital for a lower end #1 AND you have to pay a big contract.

Would rather get Hollywood in that case.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I think brown is way more dynamic but what mahomes needs most is a steady veteran. We have a lot of speed but what we lack is consistency and I don't see Hollywood giving us that. Ridley actually kind of perfectly fits what we need - target eater but fast enough to be a threat downfield. And that kind of Swiss army knife will be difficult to find and unless we draft for it will take a very long time for Reid to work in.

We still need speed options but with ridley and rice, arguably we can get some value out of specialists like toney as a gadget or mecole as a speed option. Or, more preferably, we can draft a speed option who can contribute right away

Don't disagree we need vet chain mover but Toney and Hardman don't have functional speed you can count on.

Toney for obvious reasons and they almost never used him as a vert threat (I think he could be they don't think so...)

Hardman also not really a vert threat but maybe they can just have him run faast down the field and catch one now and then. He also has been mostly a gadget play guy here whose role is now absorbed by Rice.

It's not that these guys can't do it but our coaches don't believe in them as vert threats.

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

But getting one more "top end" guy isn't a guarantee. If KC was able to trade for Aiyuk in a trade or Pittman in FA then sure, I'd be fine with waiting until later in the draft because we know that guy is a stud.

But both of those seem unlikely. Guys like Brown/Ridley/Mooney all have their limitations, so I wouldn't call any of them a "top end" guy. They all still would be an improvement from this season, but not enough IMO. That's why you also still need a 1st/2nd in the draft to give multiple shots at the position and improve depth.


So if KC is somehow able to trade for Aiyuk, then by all means don't spend too much more at the position. But I don't see that as a possibility, so they probably have to go about it a different way.

I bet they’d be more willing to part with Deebo, than Aiyuk.

[BossChief]

I don’t think it’s a given that the 49ers let either guy go.

Not while Purdy is free

[kevrunner]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I’m not sure they do. They have some cap issues and he hasn’t taken their offense to a new level. It looked basically the same as before to me.

Not only cap issues, also if the Jaguars decide to resign Ridley, they will owe the Falcons a 2nd round draft pick as per conditions of their trade but only a 3rd round pick if they don’t resign Ridley.

[ForeverIowan]

I think we might be making this harder than it needs to be. Mike Evans is a first ballot HOFer. One of the best receivers of his era. 1,000+ yards every single year of his career. Outside of Brady played with mostly garbage at QB. Coming off one of his best seasons ever.

Prioritize Mike Evans in free agency on a two year deal. Draft a 1st round receiver. Hope Rashee Rice takes a huge leap from year 1 to year 2. Your receiving core goes from the worst in the league to one ofnthe best.

[843GTYellowJacket]

Originally Posted by ForeverIowan

I think we might be making this harder than it needs to be. Mike Evans is a first ballot HOFer. One of the best receivers of his era. 1,000+ yards every single year of his career. Outside of Brady played with mostly garbage at QB. Coming off one of his best seasons ever.

Prioritize Mike Evans in free agency on a two year deal. Draft a 1st round receiver. Hope Rashee Rice takes a huge leap from year 1 to year 2. Your receiving core goes from the worst in the league to one ofnthe best.

Amen! That's what I'm saying. Pair Evans with Rice and draft another WR in the first round. Bring in Mooney from Chicago or Samuel from WAS.

[ForeverIowan]

Originally Posted by 843GTYellowJacket

Amen! That's what I'm saying. Pair Evans with Rice and draft another WR in the first round. Bring in Mooney from Chicago or Samuel from WAS.

Youve got 4 living and breating 1st ballot HOFers out there in Reid, Mahomes, Kelce and Evans. So much experience. Get them all to January healthy I like our chances.

Youth, explosion and energy in Pacheco, Rice, Toney, 1st round receiver.

Bring Hardman back and get him back to his role as one of the best gadget players in the league.

[Special_K]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I think brown is way more dynamic but what mahomes needs most is a steady veteran. We have a lot of speed but what we lack is consistency and I don't see Hollywood giving us that. Ridley actually kind of perfectly fits what we need - target eater but fast enough to be a threat downfield. And that kind of Swiss army knife will be difficult to find and unless we draft for it will take a very long time for Reid to work in.

We still need speed options but with ridley and rice, arguably we can get some value out of specialists like toney as a gadget or mecole as a speed option. Or, more preferably, we can draft a speed option who can contribute right away

What you're describing is Tyler Lockett. He's never had super elite speed, but he's an elite route runner, has great hands, and has that Kelce-like football IQ that knows where to be to get open when the play breaks down.

I don't think he's the splash WR1 we necessary need to pay huge money to, but he could be that vet that we get on discount coming back to the Midwest with hopes of being on a Super Bowl contending team.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by 843GTYellowJacket

Amen! That's what I'm saying. Pair Evans with Rice and draft another WR in the first round. Bring in Mooney from Chicago or Samuel from WAS.

Well, this plan is $30m+ per. That's the whole problem.

[Chargem]

Originally Posted by ForeverIowan

I think we might be making this harder than it needs to be. Mike Evans is a first ballot HOFer. One of the best receivers of his era. 1,000+ yards every single year of his career. Outside of Brady played with mostly garbage at QB. Coming off one of his best seasons ever.

Prioritize Mike Evans in free agency on a two year deal. Draft a 1st round receiver. Hope Rashee Rice takes a huge leap from year 1 to year 2. Your receiving core goes from the worst in the league to one ofnthe best.

Signing Evans sounds nice from a "that would be fun" point of view, but its probably got a very small chance of happening.

I don't think Mike Evans accepts a 2 year deal, I think he will want a 4 year deal and at his age, you could be paying for as many years of decline as 1k yard seasons. The Buccs have plenty of cap room, and he has been there his whole career, they have the inside track to sign him and you are going to have to overpay to try and pry him away.

Also, do you really think Rice needs to take a "huge" leap forward??

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Chargem

Signing Evans sounds nice from a "that would be fun" point of view, but its probably got a very small chance of happening.

I don't think Mike Evans accepts a 2 year deal, I think he will want a 4 year deal and at his age, you could be paying for as many years of decline as 1k yard seasons. The Buccs have plenty of cap room, and he has been there his whole career, they have the inside track to sign him and you are going to have to overpay to try and pry him away.

Also, do you really think Rice needs to take a "huge" leap forward??

Well...

the thing is, barring injury, Evans is a guy whose game will be effective longer. He's not a burner, never has been. He uses his size and his football intelligence to make plays.

Now, I'm not certain he's the way KC should go, but he's so consistent and it's not about any physical attributes that are going to fall off.

[Chargem]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Well...

the thing is, barring injury, Evans is a guy whose game will be effective longer. He's not a burner, never has been. He uses his size and his football intelligence to make plays.

Now, I'm not certain he's the way KC should go, but he's so consistent and it's not about any physical attributes that are going to fall off.

I am not saying it "will" happen, but the risk of fall off (and the risk of injury) must exponentially increase through a players 30s.

If you gave him a 4 year deal, he would be the same age as Kelce is this year in that final season. I am sure Evans could still be an asset at 33-34 because of his play style, but I am not sure he could be the #1 receiver that people are actually clamoring for.

[O.city]

Guys that get separation are who they'll target.

There's gonna be some guys traded this offseason, Dunno if we'll be involved or not though.

I have a real fear that Rome Odunze ends up in Cinci.