***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

China's draconian lockdown is why they slowed the growth. Iran hasn't done anything remotely like that. They were in denial long after Italy admitted they have a problem. Multiple people high up in the Iranian govt have died. That's a really bad sign.

As I mentioned I wasn’t interested in whether they are lying or not as I don’t dispute they might be lying. But the reason cannot simply be they should have more than Italy because they “should” be at a certain number based on what we “know” since we don’t know much. Plenty of countries aren’t doing what China did and have still not had it nearly as bad as Italy so we can’t just use Italy as the automatic benchmark.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

WHO message to youth on coronavirus: 'You are not invincible'
Coronavirus can sicken or kill young people as well and they must also avoid mingling and spreading it to older and more vulnerable people, the World Health Organization said on Friday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...rce=reddit.com

So are you just going to post this same thing every single day?

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by TLO

So are you just going to post this same thing every single day?

no that was the last one.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by kstater

Wives across the country are gonna be happy that honey do lists are gonna be completed in next couple weeks?

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A new generation of babies will be born beginning 9 months from now and they will be forever known as................wait for it..............Coronials



I`m here all week

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Donger

Is anyone else ordering food/dinner from local restaurants? I've got plenty of food frozen, but I've decided to order out at least four times a week. We had a 1,454% increase in unemployment claims in Colorado. Maybe work together to try to mitigate the impact on local restaurants?

Yep. Hitting up our local brewery for take out food and brews tonight.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Donger

Is anyone else ordering food/dinner from local restaurants? I've got plenty of food frozen, but I've decided to order out at least four times a week. We had a 1,454% increase in unemployment claims in Colorado. Maybe work together to try to mitigate the impact on local restaurants?

I think that you're doing what you can to support your local economy. I agree and support your decision. I'm not going to do it b/c I'm high risk, and every time I would eat takeout I'm probably getting exposed to 2-3 other people.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by jdubya

A new generation of babies will be born beginning 9 months from now and they will be forever known as................wait for it..............Coronials



I`m here all week

Virals?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Donger

Is anyone else ordering food/dinner from local restaurants? I've got plenty of food frozen, but I've decided to order out at least four times a week. We had a 1,454% increase in unemployment claims in Colorado. Maybe work together to try to mitigate the impact on local restaurants?

Yes. I'm trying to support as many local restaurants as I can right now. Is this a safe thing to do? I've wondered that about getting food from an establishment.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Only a 110-year-old with a good memory of their childhood has been through something like this.

I'd never put the pieces together, but I knew that my grandfather had a brother who died as a young child. I always assumed that he was stillborn or it was some "normal" childhood illness, but I learned this week that he died in the Spanish Flu epidemic. Apparently my great-grandmother was very sick with it and didn't know he had died until after he was buried.

I did remember the same great-grandmother going to check on their neighbors on the next farm since no one had heard from them in a while, and when she went to their house the entire family was dead.

It must've been a heckuva thing. 1918 is the only year in the 20th century when America's total population declined http://demographia.com/db-uspop1900.htm.

[TLO]

Great googily moogily

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=330037

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by RustShack

So they stand packed together at the door waiting to go in?

I drove by a Trader Joe’s today and the line was long to get in, but the people seemed to be keeping distance from one another.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Donger

Is anyone else ordering food/dinner from local restaurants? I've got plenty of food frozen, but I've decided to order out at least four times a week. We had a 1,454% increase in unemployment claims in Colorado. Maybe work together to try to mitigate the impact on local restaurants?

Yes. I've been eating "out" so as to not kill my food stash at home.

Learn to work the value menus.

You can save a lot of $$$ eating fast food if you know how to game it. For exmaple:

A Panda Express 3-Item plate can feed 3 people, even though a lot of people will eat that all by themselves. That's a meal for less than $10. Here's how:

1. A 3-Item plate costs LESS than a Large Entree, and you get a side with it (i.e Chow Mein). So if you plan on using their prepared meat, it's actually better if you purchase the combo. You get the same amount of meat.

2. Just cook your rice at home. For my family of 3, all we need is 1 cup of rice.

Divide up the Chow Mein and the rice into 3rds (if you're 3) and each person also gets a serving of meat.

Your home made rice + Chow Mein + Meat Entree = 1 "Panda Bowl" (or 1-item plate).

The difference in cost however is $24 vs $10.

A lot of these places can be had like that as they often give you TOO much.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Yes. I've been eating "out" so as to not kill my food stash at home.

Learn to work the value menus.

You can save a lot of $$$ eating fast food if you know how to game it. For exmaple:

A Panda Express 3-Item plate can feed 3 people, even though a lot of people will eat that all by themselves. That's a meal for less than $10. Here's how:

1. A 3-Item plate costs LESS than a Large Entree, and you get a side with it (i.e Chow Mein). So if you plan on using their prepared meat, it's actually better if you purchase the combo. You get the same amount of meat.

2. Just cook your rice at home. For my family of 3, all we need is 1 cup of rice.

Divide up the Chow Mein and the rice into 3rd (if you're 3) and each person also gets a serving of meat.

Your home made rice + Chow Mein + Meat Entree = 1 "Panda Bowl" (or 1-item plate).

The difference in cost however is $24 vs $10.

A lot of these places can be had like that as they often give you TOO much.

We have been purchasing takeout, and gift cards for various businesses. They may not be servicing people now, but purchasing a gift card can give them much needed cash in this tough time, and I can later redeem for services.

[kstater]

Originally Posted by Donger

Is anyone else ordering food/dinner from local restaurants? I've got plenty of food frozen, but I've decided to order out at least four times a week. We had a 1,454% increase in unemployment claims in Colorado. Maybe work together to try to mitigate the impact on local restaurants?

Just spent what I typically would in a pay period on a gift card at the brewery down street from me. Plus bought some crowlers of some barrel aged stuff they brought out for the "occasion"

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[FloridaMan88]

GameStop an "essential" business?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/20/tech/...ess/index.html

GameStop locations are still open in several states that have ordered non-essential retail to close, including New York and New Jersey. Starting Friday, the video game retailer began to close stores in California and Pennsylvania. California has been under a statewide shelter-in-place order since Thursday evening.

The company argues it is "essential" because it offers mice and keyboards that could help people work from home. GameStop told CNN Business in a statement that "we are one of many providers of these products that are remaining open at this time." But it didn't comment on why it must remain open if other stores are also providing those items.