***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[oaklandhater]

38% of people hospitalized with COVID-19 were between the ages of 20-54, CDC reports.

"This disease is more widespread, more transmissible, and perhaps more dangerous to more groups of people than we previously understood,” @chucktodd says.https://t.co/OdfRm9PeZN

— MSNBC (@MSNBC) March 20, 2020

it looks like it's a total shut down or millions of deaths.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by wazu

So “some” measures looks like the sweet spot. Builds up herd immunity without overwhelming hospitals, but doesn’t have us ending the summer still in bunkers as our economy is completely destroyed.

Play with the map at the bottom.

Estimated peak of King County, WA in late May with 'some' controls... 1.2 million cases. Alameda County, CA... 770,000 cases.

Doesn't exactly support the confirmation bias.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Donger

There's nothing holy about it. I'm just thinking of ways to do what I can to help, and it would be better if it were multiplied. Seems like other people are as well, GoChiefs.

Perhaps it would be better if you stayed out of it, and let those of us who actually care about others do what we can.

hey man that's great

maybe you could doordash yourself some filet mignon and tip the driver 1000% to give you a champagne enema

i'm sure that will make the virus go away

[TLO]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

38% of people hospitalized with COVID-19 were between the ages of 20-54, CDC reports.

"This disease is more widespread, more transmissible, and perhaps more dangerous to more groups of people than we previously understood,” @chucktodd says.https://t.co/OdfRm9PeZN

— MSNBC (@MSNBC) March 20, 2020

it looks like it's a total shut down or millions of deaths.

Oh good. You quoted the same statistics from a different news agency, AGAIN.

[Discuss Thrower]

And here come the totally unforeseeable () bandwidth problems:

BREAKING NEWS: Video game players are urged to play at 'reasonable times' to avoid putting an extra strain on internet networks during the coronavirus outbreak. Online gaming is 'the biggest threat to internet bandwidth' these next few weeks.

— Dave Vescio (@DaveVescio) March 20, 2020

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by TLO

Oh good. You quoted the same statistics from a different news agency, AGAIN.

Remember what I said about people I scroll past?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

hey man that's great

maybe you could doordash yourself some filet mignon and tip the driver 1000% to give you a champagne enema

i'm sure that will make the virus go away

No, but I will do what I said. It might help, particularly if multiplied.

No, it won't make the virus go away, but it might help people who are struggling financially because of this bug. Those of us that can, should. There's nothing wrong with that, GoChiefs.

You'd understand that if you were a decent person.

[Chief Roundup]

So since we had cases all the way back in January why did it take so long for the spread to get so severe. Here in Arkansas cases are almost doubling by the day. We are now over 100.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Na, its "can" + "growler". Though technically a crowler is a half-growler's worth of beer.

thanks!

[phisherman]

Originally Posted by stevieray

thanks!

They're great. Hermetically sealed too so you don't have to drink them within a few days like you do with growlers.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Remember what I said about people I scroll past?

in my defense people gave me a bunch of shit about that Statistic for two days.

[FloridaMan88]

Italy now using their military to enforce their national lockdown.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

So since we had cases all the way back in January why did it take so long for the spread to get so severe. Here in Arkansas cases are almost doubling by the day. We are now over 100.

Doubling because of the increase in testing would be my guess.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by TLO

Doubling because of the increase in testing would be my guess.

Yes I understand that but I was mainly talking about this going back to January.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ses-in-us.html

Scroll down and you will see that we had cases back in January.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by phisherman

They're great. Hermetically sealed too so you don't have to drink them within a few days like you do with growlers.

I hate that. I have always wondered as I know nothing about soda stream but could it re-energize co2 into the beer that went flat in a growler.