***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Fish]

The Tyrann Mathieu Foundation will be donating 30,000 meals to families affected by the COVID-19.

“In an effort to help ease the burden and anxiety in this unpredictable time, I am committed in joining my teammates by donating 30,000 meals to the families in need,” Mathieu said in a news release. “It’s so important that everyone protect themselves, their loved ones and give back during this challenging time. I urge everyone to remain informed and remember that we are stronger together.”

[arrowheadnation]

I haven't left my house in a week and a half. I'm fortunate to be able to work from home. Today, I ventured out at around 9am to go to Dollar General (I figured the supermarket would be ransacked). I only wanted to get some diet mt. dew and milk. I went in, grabbed a 12 pack of mt dew and a gallon of milk and then thought, I wonder if they have any lysol, so I ran back to the cleaning supplies and they were out. No biggie. I start walking down the main aisle to the front of the store so I can get the hell out of there and all of the sudden an employee walks out of one of the aisles and coughs twice without covering her damn mouth like 2 feet away from me (she mumbled excuse me as she walked bye like it was no big deal). I'm not the type to lose my cool so I immediately held my breath clear up to the counter, checked out, drove straight home, and took a shower. It's the closest I've ever come to bitching someone out in public. There are only 2 people in my county that have it (officially) and I would think at this point someone would have the decency not to come to work if they had all the symptoms, but I've of course been worried/paranoid all day. It sucks that we have to live like this now.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by mlyonsd

If Americans just follow the basic rules of washing their hands and social distancing cases will level out and fall.

Seems like coughing and leaving it on surfaces seems to be the biggest culprit.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

Those figures are almost COMPLETELY meaningless except to sensationalize things and get clicks.

Let me give you a completely made up but plausible scenario. Let's say that the people between 0 and 54 ignore all the advice and put themselves at much higher risk. This activity results in 50x (all made up figures here, just to prove a point) as many cases in that particular age group. So in a certain geographical area you have 1000 people who are 54+ infected and 50,000 people <54 infected. 124 people from the 54+ group end up hospitalized. 76 people from the <54 group end up hospitalized.

OMG !!!! 38%are under 54!!!! Yes. and they represent .152% of the people infected from their age group.

Since we have absolutely ZERO clue what the true numbers are these types of percentages are completely meaningless. They are nothing but sensationalism meant to scare people. You maye be ok with it but I see it as outright dishonesty and it's ****ING REPREHENSIBLE behavior.

That's true but the whole notion that all young people who get it will be fine is complete bullshit. Young people can die from this. It's not common but it does happen more than you think.

Many of you on here act like this is only a virus old people need to worry about.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...orry?_amp=true

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by arrowheadnation

I haven't left my house in a week and a half. I'm fortunate to be able to work from home. Today, I ventured out at around 9am to go to Dollar General (I figured the supermarket would be ransacked). I only wanted to get some diet mt. dew and milk. I went in, grabbed a 12 pack of mt dew and a gallon of milk and then thought, I wonder if they have any lysol, so I ran back to the cleaning supplies and they were out. No biggie. I start walking down the main aisle to the front of the store so I can get the hell out of there and all of the sudden an employee walks out of one of the aisles and coughs twice without covering her damn mouth like 2 feet away from me (she mumbled excuse me as she walked bye like it was no big deal). I'm not the type to lose my cool so I immediately held my breath clear up to the counter, checked out, drove straight home, and took a shower. It's the closest I've ever come to bitching someone out in public. There are only 2 people in my county that have it (officially) and I would think at this point someone would have the decency not to come to work if they had all the symptoms, but I've of course been worried/paranoid all day. It sucks that we have to live like this now.

Do you really think someone who works at Dollar General can afford to miss work?

[Hammock Parties]

feck

Reported US coronavirus cases in March via @CNN:

3/1: 89
3/2: 105
3/3: 125
3/4: 159
3/5: 227
3/6: 331
3/7: 444
3/8: 564
3/9: 728
3/10: 1,000
3/11: 1,267
3/12: 1,645
3/13: 2,204
3/14: 2,826
3/15: 3,505
3/16: 4,466
3/17: 6,135
3/18: 8,760
3/19: 13,229
Now: 18,182

— Ryan Struyk (@ryanstruyk) March 21, 2020

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

That's true but the whole notion that all young people who get it will be fine is complete bullshit. Young people can die from this. It's not common but it does happen more than you think.

Many of you on here act like this is only a virus old people need to worry about.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...orry?_amp=true

No one thinks all young people will be fine. That's ridiculous. A young person with leukemia (like your example) is at very high risk, same for one with chronic respiratory issues, etc etc

The data we have now points to very very low risk for healthy young people. That doesn't mean much since our data right now is woefully incomplete.

The difference is that I am not throwing out meaningless numbers in an effort to sensationalize things.

The news outlets pushing these numbers are either full of morons or being purposely deceptive. It's disgusting.

[BryanBusby]

Nothing that we didn't see coming...so far at least.

[Hammock Parties]

Welp.

[Hammock Parties]

Philly and now San Francisco.

This is San Francisco during a mandatory quarantine

This is California under regressive Democrat policies

Leftists want this way of life for all of America

RT to spread the truth!

pic.twitter.com/mE5NgRO7dv

— Rogan O’Handley ���� (@DC_Draino) March 19, 2020

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Philly and now San Francisco.

This is San Francisco during a mandatory quarantine

This is California under regressive Democrat policies

Leftists want this way of life for all of America

RT to spread the truth!

pic.twitter.com/mE5NgRO7dv

— Rogan O’Handley ���� (@DC_Draino) March 19, 2020

People taking gum?

This seems political

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by SupDock

People taking gum?

This seems political

Ignore the text. Not why I posted it.

It's a video of people stealing hundreds of dollars of stuff because there's no real penalty.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Ignore the text.

It's a video of people stealing hundreds of dollars of stuff because there's no real penalty.

There's no penalty?

[BryanBusby]

Lucky for them, CVS is probably just right across the street for convenient robbing.

[Hammock Parties]

I just watched Contagion and...holy shit if the same crap ain't happening IRL

Army Corps of Engineers aims to convert buildings into hospitals in three or four weeks https://t.co/aU6RoIAjUT

— KMBC (@kmbc) March 21, 2020