***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[eDave]

Originally Posted by BossChief

That can’t be real.

Dudes been posting a lot of BS in this thread.

To be clear, the Philadelphia Police Department is not turning a blind eye to crime. Persons who commit certain non-violent offenses will be arrested at the scene. Once their identity has been confirmed, they will be released and processed via arrest warrant. This is similar to the “summons process” that is utilized in many other counties throughout the Commonwealth. An officer still has the authority to utilize discretion, and take an offender into physical custody for immediate processing, if the officer and supervisor believe the individual poses a threat to public safety.

In order to balance this approach, personnel from several plain-clothes units have been assigned to patrol duties to increase police presence and deter crime twenty-four hours a day.

This temporary response model was implemented to protect our officers, and the communities we serve, from becoming infected or spreading Covid-19. Additionally, these protocols allow us to adjust to the changing availability of resources within other areas of the criminal justice system. To reiterate, criminal offenders will be held accountable for the crimes they commit.

https://www.phillymag.com/news/2020/...al-businesses/

It's an excellent approach.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

The videos of looting from Philly and San Francisco are certainly real.

As is this.

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...tlaw-Memo.html

And this.

I'm not agreeing with the policy, but to be clear, the police are still responding to the above crimes. They may make the decision to issue a warrant instead of arresting on the spot for the listed crimes.

[Hammock Parties]

It's not bullshit, though.

Those are the "new rules."

And because of them, stores were looted and people walked out free as birds.

I guess if you want to ignore that, you can.

I'm not ignoring that, nor am I ignoring the looting that is now starting at fast food places.

The virus is scary, people are much scarier.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by SupDock

I'm not agreeing with the policy, but to be clear, the police are still responding to the above crimes. They may make the decision to issue a warrant instead of arresting on the spot for the listed crimes.

Yeah? They sure didn't appear to be responding in those videos.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Yeah? They sure didn't appear to be responding in those videos.

Is that what the policy said or not?
You said that Covid-19 is causing police to not respond, and referred to issues with California and Prop 47.

Then to justify your post, you linked a memo from Philadelphia that still doesn't back up what you posted.

The police were not there so they must not be coming?

How many times a day do you think a crime gets completed prior to police arriving?

[dlphg9]

How long is Clay going to be allowed to muck up this thread? He's gotten multiple warnings. Boot that bitch

[arrowheadnation]

Another little something to give hope. From two days ago

A small theme park about 3 hours from Beijing opened up today for business. China is starting to return to normal. #COVID19 pic.twitter.com/8bYOTvT3tB

— Rick Norman (@slideslideimp) March 19, 2020

[sedated]

JFC, GoChiefs has proven to be a piece of shit troll and banned many times over, now he's starting shit again during a pandemic.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by SupDock

Is that what the policy said or not?

Did you read the memo?

The police have relaxed due to COVID-19, period.

This is the result.

[Stanley Nickels]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Yeah? They sure didn't appear to be responding in those videos.

Can this asshat be relegated to DC already? Enough with this shit.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by sedated

JFC, GoChiefs has proven to be a piece of shit troll and banned many times over, now he's starting shit again during a pandemic.

I'm posting things that are happening.

WTF?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels

Can this asshat be relegated to DC already? Enough with this shit.

I'm sorry, but this is a thread for pandemic-related news.

Looting IS HAPPENING. It's in the the freakin' news.

I'm not "starting shit." I have no idea why you don't want to read the news.

I sure do, so I share it. Please let me know if you see more news of looting. I hope it stops.

Thanks.

[bobbything]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

How long is Clay going to be allowed to muck up this thread? He's gotten multiple warnings. Boot that bitch

He’s a media whore. His last several posts show that. Shares a tweet that shows the exponential increase in confirmed cases without any context—doing little more than inciting fear. It’s irresponsible.

[Hammock Parties]

I'm sorry, you all need to get over it. It's a tweet from CNN. I didn't editorialize it. Give me a break.

If it's bullshit, that's even more reason for it to be posted here, so idiots like me can receive explanations why it's bullshit.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

I'm sorry, you all need to get over it. It's a tweet from CNN. Give me a break.

If it's bullshit, that's even more reason for it to be posted here, so idiots like me can receive explanations why it's bullshit.

You are just an asshole.

Confirmed many times over.