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Mr. Laz · 09-23-2013, 11:22 AM

Josh Gordon Trade Rumors: Latest Buzz and Speculation Surrounding Browns WR
BY JOSEPH ZUCKER
(FEATURED COLUMNIST) ON SEPTEMBER 22, 2013

Andrew Weber-USA TODAY Sports
The Cleveland Browns' fire sale may yet continue as the team has reportedly made wide receiver Josh Gordon available.

According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, the Browns are willing to part with Gordon along with fellow wide receiver Greg Little:

ESPN's Adam Caplan adds that Gordon has actually been on the trade block for "several weeks":

Gordon is returning to the field in Week 3 after serving a two-game suspension at the start of the regular season, following a violation of the league's substance-abuse policy. He came into the season with some lofty expectations after his rookie year, in which he caught 50 passes for 805 yards and five touchdowns.

This news is exactly what Browns fans won't want to hear. It comes the same week as Cleveland essentially gave up on the 2013 season just two weeks into the season, first naming Brian Hoyer the starting quarterback over the banged-up Brandon Weeden and backup Jason Campbell, and then trading Trent Richardson to the Indianapolis Colts.

For a fanbase as tortured as the Browns' it will hurt to see yet another talented offensive player be pushed out the door.

Only 22 years old, Gordon will continue to improve, and he's the kind of player a team can build a receiving corps around. The fact that Cleveland is thinking about offoading him is arguably more surprising than the Richardson trade.

However, if Cleveland is really in rebuild mode, it would make sense to cash in now on its most marketable asset and prepare for the future. The trio of Joe Banner, Michael Lombardi and Rob Chudzinski have a definite direction they're taking this team. They're not afraid to burn some bridges in the short term if it helps the long term, either.

Only time will tell if the plan works out.

l4z4rd · 10-27-2013, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Can't disagree with this. As much as Gordon is elite...Smith won't find him. Crabtree didn't do shit till Kaepernick took over. TE, checkdowns to RB's is all Smith is good for.

It's not that Crabtree didn't do shit, it was that Smith preferred to throw to Davis because he was a deep threat.

Silock · 10-27-2013, 08:45 PM

I would get Gordon now. He'll suffer through two more years of Alex Smith and when we finally wise up and get a real QB, we'll have something special.

**Mav** · 10-27-2013, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by l4z4rd

It's not that Crabtree didn't do shit, it was that Smith preferred to throw to Davis because he was a deep threat.

and in shape, and always in camp, and doing extra work to get better.

The things that outsiders never understood.

Crabtree, held CRABTREE BACK.

l4z4rd · 10-27-2013, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

and in shape, and always in camp, and doing extra work to get better.

The things that outsiders never understood.

Crabtree, held CRABTREE BACK.

Indeed. His 71 day hold out didn't do him any favors.

**MahiMike** · 10-27-2013, 08:50 PM

This is fun and all but how many trades really happen in the NFL?

Mr. Laz · 10-27-2013, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike

This is fun and all but how many trades really happen in the NFL?

it's changing

the Rookie pay scale has changed things

draft picks aren't so difficult on the salary cap anymore

Mother****erJones · 10-27-2013, 08:52 PM

There's been a few the past few weeks

l4z4rd · 10-27-2013, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike

This is fun and all but how many trades really happen in the NFL?

not many, but you never know. Who would have expected the Browns to trade Richardson.

**Anyong Bluth** · 10-27-2013, 09:09 PM

Smith will never find him? Gordon runs plenty of crossing routes and shorter stuff as well as comeback stuff. The difference is he does get separated way faster than any WR we have on our roster.

Notice that these are just a few examples, and most routes are less than 10 yards or just passed it. He simply gets space between himself and his guy is a short amount of time as well as a shorter distance. Bowe isn't going to get that separation that quickly except maybe 1 or 2 times on 100 plays. Avery at times has gotten free that quick, but he is a midget compared to a big target like Gordon. Not to mention he's probably 1/10 the player and talent compared to Josh. The difference is Gordon is not just a deep threat that wouldn't be utilized by Smith, but has above average speed to go deep, but the size and power to be a weapon in the 3 step drop to pick up chunks in YAC and the potential to break it at any time.

**Anyong Bluth** · 10-27-2013, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

let's not get carried away, our WRs haven't been that open

Yell about Smith inaccuracy all you want but our WRs haven't been anything to write home about.

adding a real #1 receiver to push all the rest of our WRs down a spot should help quite a bit

Gordon becomes the #1
Avery would be outside across from him
Bowe in the slot using his size to block and working more against Safeties and Lb's
McCluster still being mr. gadget

add a stud TE to work inside with Bowe would help a shit ton too

Bowe in the slot with single coverage already is a wet dream and he could Beast with Alex loving the middle of the field.

jd1020 · 10-27-2013, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

Smith will never find him?

Nope.

Gonna be hard to find someone running routes for a different team.

**Anyong Bluth** · 10-27-2013, 09:14 PM

@RapSheet: #Browns have had talks for WR Josh Gordon, but source tells me no trade expected by Tuesday. Belief is it’d take at least a 2nd rounder.

**Anyong Bluth** · 10-27-2013, 09:24 PM

Sad that this thread steams forward and all for naught most likely, and I will be a bit sad come Tuesday and then the degree of that will depend on if he stays with Cleveland and rises exponentially if another team does get him and based on if it's for reasonable compensation. Or, if Denver makes a move or more than 1.

Major chatter for potential moves by Denver before the deadline include and I think would be a nightmare if they were to pull off, because Elway strikes me as a guy with no problem in doubling down and knows the window of opportunity.

Jared Allen (DE) Vikings
Jarius Byrd (S) Bills
MJD. (RB) Jaguars

The 1st 2 I really don't want to happen.

hitchief · 10-27-2013, 09:24 PM

we wont give a 1st round pick and don't have a 2nd.

I'd give this years third and a conditional 2nd the following year based on play.

We really need a wr who has his combination of talents.

That being said, we also really need a TE. So?

**notorious** · 10-27-2013, 09:26 PM

I guess there is nothing wrong with dreaming about something that won't happen.

It's like beating off to Playboy.

09-23-2013, 11:22 AM
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Anyong Bluth Deus ambulans inter homines Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago Casino cash: $9439340	Smith will never find him? Gordon runs plenty of crossing routes and shorter stuff as well as comeback stuff. The difference is he does get separated way faster than any WR we have on our roster. Notice that these are just a few examples, and most routes are less than 10 yards or just passed it. He simply gets space between himself and his guy is a short amount of time as well as a shorter distance. Bowe isn't going to get that separation that quickly except maybe 1 or 2 times on 100 plays. Avery at times has gotten free that quick, but he is a midget compared to a big target like Gordon. Not to mention he's probably 1/10 the player and talent compared to Josh. The difference is Gordon is not just a deep threat that wouldn't be utilized by Smith, but has above average speed to go deep, but the size and power to be a weapon in the 3 step drop to pick up chunks in YAC and the potential to break it at any time. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Suck it, *beautiful*
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Anyong Bluth Deus ambulans inter homines Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago Casino cash: $9439340	@RapSheet: #Browns have had talks for WR Josh Gordon, but source tells me no trade expected by Tuesday. Belief is it’d take at least a 2nd rounder. __________________ Suck it, *beautiful*
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Anyong Bluth Deus ambulans inter homines Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago Casino cash: $9439340	Sad that this thread steams forward and all for naught most likely, and I will be a bit sad come Tuesday and then the degree of that will depend on if he stays with Cleveland and rises exponentially if another team does get him and based on if it's for reasonable compensation. Or, if Denver makes a move or more than 1. Major chatter for potential moves by Denver before the deadline include and I think would be a nightmare if they were to pull off, because Elway strikes me as a guy with no problem in doubling down and knows the window of opportunity. Jared Allen (DE) Vikings Jarius Byrd (S) Bills MJD. (RB) Jaguars The 1st 2 I really don't want to happen. __________________ Suck it, *beautiful*
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