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Old 02-27-2013, 12:45 PM  
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Old 11-15-2013, 03:27 PM   #8611
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And yet he's STILL not Matt Cassel.
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Old 11-15-2013, 03:53 PM   #8612
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More with less? On the OL, sure.

But talent at the skill positions is at least comparable, if not better. Bowe is the best individual WR he has played with. Charles is better than Gore, though Gore is a good back.

TE play is obviously not good. Avery is also not a BAD No. 2 WR, compared to what Smith has had to work with.

If you don't think this is a horrible job, what is? Alex Smith is in the last third in the NFL in every individual stat that matters except for INTs thrown.

Oline is more important than the receivers IMO...with that said...

Bowe is obviously as good as Crabtree...maybe better..not sure... But I don't know if I'd put Avery on the same level as Manningham...but McCluster is better than anyone else that was on the 9er WR core. There's certainly no one who could replace VD. In SF, Vernon was Alex's #2 receiver. Don't forget he had Delanie Walker over there too. There's no one in KC that come close to either of those guys. I would agree that Charles is better than Gore.

Overall..yes he has less...much less.

Horrible would mean to me that he was losing games for the team..he's not.
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Old 11-15-2013, 05:10 PM   #8613
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Oline is more important than the receivers IMO...with that said...

Bowe is obviously as good as Crabtree...maybe better..not sure... But I don't know if I'd put Avery on the same level as Manningham...but McCluster is better than anyone else that was on the 9er WR core. There's certainly no one who could replace VD. In SF, Vernon was Alex's #2 receiver. Don't forget he had Delanie Walker over there too. There's no one in KC that come close to either of those guys. I would agree that Charles is better than Gore.

Overall..yes he has less...much less.

Horrible would mean to me that he was losing games for the team..he's not.
I'd call the skill talent basically a wash, possibly with a slight edge to this Chiefs group based on having a better primary WR and a better RB, with at least the 2011 49ers. (Better at No. 1 WR, worse at No. 2, better at No. 3, worse at TE, better at RB).

The OL isn't as good, but the playmakers he has around him are good enough.
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Old 11-15-2013, 05:24 PM   #8614
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I'd call the skill talent basically a wash, possibly with a slight edge to this Chiefs group based on having a better primary WR and a better RB, with at least the 2011 49ers. (Better at No. 1 WR, worse at No. 2, better at No. 3, worse at TE, better at RB).

The OL isn't as good, but the playmakers he has around him are good enough.
The 49ers are in year 3 under Harbaugh and Co., this is year 1 for KC under Reid and Co... So the edge definitely goes to the 49ers. End of argument.
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Old 11-15-2013, 05:27 PM   #8615
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From certain posts the last two days and my own intuition i just know... some people here reeeally HATE the fact that Htis is being rational and reasonable about the issue, instead of piling on with a bunch of irrational crap.

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Old 11-15-2013, 05:29 PM   #8616
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From certain posts the last two days and my own intuition i just know... some people here reeeally HATE the fact that Htis is being rational and reasonable about the issue, instead of piling on with a bunch of irrational crap.

HAHA
I'm just happy to see him posting a lot. Makes this old-school CP member happy. It seems like all is right with the world with htis posting frequently.

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Old 11-15-2013, 05:45 PM   #8617
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Our offense is pathetic and people say this?
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Old 11-15-2013, 05:50 PM   #8618
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Clay actually used specific numbers of throws etc...and said we couldn't win nor could he keep his turnover rate down.

Also when people talk about how is playing they continually say he cant improve because he is at his "career" average now so why would I expect he could play better. They aren't discussing his drop off from 2010 and 2011. Believe me I have been part of the conversations all week.

In other words it gets flipped to whatever suits your argument.
I haven't flipped anything. He's playing to his career averages.
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Old 11-15-2013, 05:54 PM   #8619
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From certain posts the last two days and my own intuition i just know... some people here reeeally HATE the fact that Htis is being rational and reasonable about the issue, instead of piling on with a bunch of irrational crap.

HAHA
I like htis quite a bit but we all need to remember what he did when the trade and draft went down.

He was done, remember?


But I am glad he's back.
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Old 11-15-2013, 05:57 PM   #8620
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Old 11-15-2013, 06:01 PM   #8621
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I like htis quite a bit but we all need to remember what he did when the trade and draft went down.

He was done, remember?


But I am glad he's back.
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Oh yeah, i remember... but what he's done is a thing we've heard a lot in the news the last 10 years in regard to the wars...

He adjusted to the facts on the ground.

But i'm also glad he's back, i hate it when well known, respected posters just split.
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Old 11-15-2013, 06:02 PM   #8622
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Old 11-15-2013, 06:05 PM   #8623
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Oh yeah, i remember... but what he's done is a thing we've heard a lot in the news the last 10 years in regard to the wars...

He adjusted to the facts on the ground.

But i'm also glad he's back, i hate it when well known, respected posters just split.
Good way of putting it.

wish I had thought of that yesterday with Marcy
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Old 11-15-2013, 06:06 PM   #8624
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And yet he's STILL not Matt Cassel.
Uh-Oh.


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Old 11-15-2013, 06:09 PM   #8625
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Good way of putting it.

wish I had thought of that yesterday with Marcy
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