NFL Draft Neither Stafford or Sanchez belong in top 10 - Page 58

**chiefforlife** · 02-21-2009, 09:39 AM

SOME DON’T VIEW STAFFORD, SANCHEZ AS TOP TEN PICKS
Posted by Mike Florio on February 21, 2009, 8:21 a.m.

Our initial mock draft of the year created plenty of consternation among folks who regard such matters even more importantly that some of our other readers regard their chosen religion.

And, yes, we were trying to make a point with the thing. At this stage, none of the draft experts (i.e., guys who couldn’t get or hold a scouting job with an NFL team and who instead tried to create a niche in the media for the stuff no NFL team would pay them to do) know with any degree of certainty what will occur on draft day.

Apart from the premature nature of prognosticating the events of late April is the fact that every NFL team makes its own decisions for its own reasons, especially in round one. Some draft based on need. Others take the best available player. And when 32 teams have different views on how those available players are ranked from best to worst, the stage is set for all sorts of screwy stuff.

We could have created even more consternation by dropping Georgia quarterback Matt Stafford and USC quarterback Mark Sanchez out of the top ten. In some war rooms, it’s an accurate view of the two players.

Said one source, “In other years those guys aren’t first-round picks. Stafford played well in 2007 but was horrible in 2008. He stunk in all their big games.”

The source specifically pointed to the contests against Alabama, Florida, and Tennessee. Based on the numbers, Stafford was bad against Florida, mediocre against Alabama, and decent against Tennessee.

“He is an average leader at best,” the source opined. “When you put a lot of pressure on him, he pees his pants. Detroit has a new front office, but if they take him then it’s the same old stuff. I guarantee that if he goes in the top 20 he will never play to the level he was drafted.

“What he has is physical skills,” the source added. “He has a strong arm and is athletic but he also has poor instincts and poor decision-making.”

Some might disagree with that assessment. But the point is that, when you’ve got a bunch of different folks assessing the same players, there will be significant variations from person to person.

“As far as Sanchez,” the source said, “he is a more solid choice. He played in a pro style offense. He’s accurate and has a good arm. He’s smart and a leader.

“The negative is he was a one-year starter. Tell me the last time a quarterback who was a one-year starter in college made it big in the NFL? Game time is huge with quarterbacks. Granted, from a money standpoint he made the right decision, but from the standpoint of having a top career, his decision has to be questioned.”

(And, no, our source isn’t Pete Carroll.)

So there you have it. Evidence of how the viewpoints on supposedly top players can diverge dramatically. It makes the process of predicting draft picks even more precarious. So, in the end, we think the final tally of players taken two months from now would presently seem every bit as goofy and unrealistic as some viewed our initial Pre-Combine Mock Draft.

Mecca · 02-23-2009, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CanadaKC

Mecca is hell-bent at his position that a) the Chiefs draft Manchez at #3
and b) Freeman doesn't fall past 22

he's wrong on both parts...and I'm going to link this post when it happens.

Do you have a crystal ball?

And frankly why would you care that Freeman falls or not, are you a big fan of JaMarcus Russell?

baitism · 02-23-2009, 08:35 PM

Gosh, its so easy. Makes you wonder why we don't have one already!

Mecca · 02-23-2009, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

Without taking an OL in the 1st round the next 3 years, it has no chance of improving. That's why good teams consistently use multiple 1st round picks on the OL.

Lets not let him face the fact that basically all of the best teams in the league have 1 or no 1st round offensive linemen.

baitism · 02-23-2009, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

Lets not let him face the fact that basically all of the best teams in the league have 1 or no 1st round offensive linemen.

When did I ever say to draft one? I just said that our line sucks, and Sanchez is an injury waiting to happen.

ChiefsCountry · 02-23-2009, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baitism

Gosh, its so easy. Makes you wonder why we don't have one already!

Mecca · 02-23-2009, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baitism

When did I ever say to draft one? I just said that our line sucks, and Sanchez is an injury waiting to happen.

So the Chiefs line can't possibly ever get any better?

Coogs · 02-23-2009, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by baitism

Gosh, its so easy. Makes you wonder why we don't have one already!

Gun got all the FA's and high draft picks the past few seasons. That is why our defense rocked.

ChiefsCountry · 02-23-2009, 08:38 PM

When did Sanchez become injury prone?

Mecca · 02-23-2009, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

When did Sanchez become injury prone?

When he became a rapist or a developed a Pennington arm?

Some of this stuff is really so far out there.

baitism · 02-23-2009, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

When did Sanchez become injury prone?

Lets see, wore a knee brace the whole year after injuring it. Hobbled around a bunch the last few games, and played one season as a starter. So maybe you are right, he might not be, but its hard to tell from one year.

Pioli Zombie · 02-23-2009, 08:42 PM

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Sam Hall · 02-23-2009, 08:42 PM

Mark Sanchez will be good, but I don't know if he's worth the 3rd pick. He might be. The third pick doesn't look like a good spot in round one.

Mecca · 02-23-2009, 08:42 PM

Uh some guys always wear knee braces..

He never missed any games, by that theory Brett Favre was injury prone because he got hurt even though he played.

ChiefsCountry · 02-23-2009, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baitism

Lets see, wore a knee brace the whole year after injuring it. Hobbled around a bunch the last few games, and played one season as a starter. So maybe you are right, he might not be, but its hard to tell from one year.

You mean the freak accident in practice.

Pioli Zombie · 02-23-2009, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

When he became a rapist or a developed a Pennington arm?

Some of this stuff is really so far out there.

That's right. I forgot they say sanchez raped a girl. I don't think its fair to keep saying sanchez raped a girl. There's no proof sanchez raped a girl. If they can prove sanchez raped a girl than they should do it or else stop saying sanchez raped a girl.
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02-21-2009, 09:39 AM
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