Cardinals ***Offical 2010 STL Cardinals Baseball Thread *** - Page 58

**BigRedChief** · 01-05-2010, 09:39 PM

Holliday signs. The Deal is Done. $120 Million over 7 years.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...=.jsp&c_id=stl

Signed or controlled for the next 2 years

Shumaker 2B
Rasmus CF
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Ludwick RF
Molina C
Freese 3B
Ryan SS
And 2 CY Young caliber starting pitchers
Carp and Wainwright P

We get Lohse or Garcia to step up and be a reliable 3rd starter in the playoffs we can win a World Series with this line up.

Frazod · 04-29-2010, 01:36 PM

Nine runs? Christ, maybe we should sit Albert more often.

Chief Henry · 04-29-2010, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Big Sweat is looking like sack mist so far today.

The sweat beads are dripping into his eyes and he needs a towel to wipe
them off. he might have dropped 5 lbs today.

BRC you are absolutley correct to pull Yadi right now. He needs a break.
Put him next to # 5.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-29-2010, 01:39 PM

Colby Rasmus: Why I love compensation for Type A Free Agents

Chief Henry · 04-29-2010, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod

Nine runs? Christ, maybe we should sit Albert more often.

Some friends and I are heading down to catch the May 20th game. Its
also on a Thursday afternoon. I hope Albert plays that game. But if this
keeps up, we might be up by 10 at that point.

Chief Henry · 04-29-2010, 01:46 PM

Radio guys just said the D-Backs are beating the cubs 6-1 at W'ville

Frazod · 04-29-2010, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Henry

Radio guys just said the D-Backs are beating the cubs 6-1 at W'ville

I heard on the radio that a bunch of pro-illegal alien douchebags were planning on protesting at Wrigley because the Cubs are playing Arizona. I hope they're enjoying the game.

Chief Henry · 04-29-2010, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod

I heard on the radio that a bunch of pro-illegal alien douchebags were planning on protesting at Wrigley because the Cubs are playing Arizona. I hope they're enjoying the game.

Prolly a bunch of Polish Pro-illegal douchebags...Chicago's full of Polish people.
Prolly explains the cubs !!!

Pasta Little Brioni · 04-29-2010, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Colby Rasmus: Why I love compensation for Type A Free Agents

4 runs scored today. He's been an OBP machine thus far.

**BigRedChief** · 04-29-2010, 05:51 PM

By Jayson Stark
ESPN.com
Archive
Ryan Howard might have rocked the world of baseball bean counters everywhere this week with his five-year, $125 million extension. But here's one thing he didn't do:
Decimate the first-base free-agent market of 2011-12.

Yeah, it's sad to report that Albert Pujols, Adrian Gonzalez, Prince Fielder and Lance Berkman don't have Howard around to keep them company, and feed them Subway footlongs, anymore. It won't be the same without him.

But allow us to point out that the four guys Howard abandoned have 17 All-Star appearances, six Silver Sluggers, three Gold Gloves and 10 40-homer seasons among them. So there's an excellent chance they'll get paid slightly more than, say, Alex Cintron in 2012.

So what does their market look like now? What are they worth? And are there enough teams out there to pay them what they're worth? You might be surprised. So let's take a look at the star-studded first-base class of 2011:

Sir Albert

If there's a living human who thinks Pujols will wind up playing anywhere other than St. Louis, please raise your hand. You need to get out more. The Cardinals' entire franchise is built around Pujols. They can't possibly let the best player on our planet walk -- or even make it to the auction. Right?

Albert Pujols

#5 1B
St. Louis Cardinals

"I don't even consider that a question," one GM said. "He's a god there. No way he leaves."

So the debate about Pujols isn't where he's going. It's how monstrous his checks will be. And let's just say that when we asked his agent, Jeff Borris, what effect Howard's deal might have on his client's earning power, Borris actually laughed.
"No contract has any effect on Albert," he said. "Albert is the best player in Major League Baseball. As great a superstar as Ryan Howard is, there's no comparison to Albert Pujols. He stands above all the rest."

The Cardinals, you'll be stunned to learn, have noticed that, too. So we're not sure what they're waiting for. But the best guess is that they'll get that extension done during the winter. And although it's hard to comprehend where the dollars will land, you can bet that, as one baseball man put it, his annual salary "is going to start with a '3'" -- as in $30 million a year for seven or eight years (i.e., the biggest salary ever).

McWickedson · 04-30-2010, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The 2004 squad would've kicked the !@#$ out of the whiteyball Cards, IMO. Those clubs were a tough out because they were gimmicky and played in a ballpark ideally suited for them. Take the best Whiteyball squad, put them in a neutral stadium and have them play 162 games and I think the 2004 Cards win 90 of them.

That team was amazing and I'll listen to any arguments that have it as the best Cardinal ballclub of all time. The '67 Cardinals have a good argument, but I can't see anyone else really putting up much of a fight.

The 1942-44 Cardinals also have a great argument. They won 3 consecutive pennants, two WS, and three straight 100+ games. Rob Neyer considers the 1942 team as one of the greatest of all time.

Simply Red · 04-30-2010, 09:03 AM

nice work on the 4-game sweep, i don't mind it as much, being it's the Cards, the Cards never really bothered me. If it were the Phillies it'd be another story. In all fairness to Atlanta, this 'losing-streak' is also a product of a few bad breaks. But no question, we're slumping.

Frazod · 04-30-2010, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red

nice work on the 4-game sweep, i don't mind it as much, being it's the Cards, the Cards never really bothered me. If it were the Phillies it'd be another story. In all fairness to Atlanta, this 'losing-streak' is also a product of a few bad breaks. But no question, we're slumping.

I chased my wife around the house with a broom last night. She was not amused.

**BigRedChief** · 04-30-2010, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod

I chased my wife around the house with a broom last night. She was not amused.

So you and the right hand are going to become reaquainted again?

Frazod · 04-30-2010, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

So you and the right hand are going to become reaquainted again?

Left, actually.

**BigRedChief** · 04-30-2010, 11:44 AM

From an article on A-Rods arrogance from foxsports.com. This is why I loved Gibby growing up...

Word of advice to Braden: Don’t issue threats, just do. The next time A-Rodsteps to the plate, send him a message.

That's what Bob Gibson did in 1972 when a San Diego rookie named Derrel Thomas elaborately dug in for his first big-league at-bat against the Cardinals' Hall of Fame-bound pitcher.

"'If you're going to dig, dig six feet,'" Dave Garcia, the Padres' third base coach at the time, recalls Gibson telling Thomas. Then Gibson threw the first pitch at Thomas’ neck.

01-05-2010, 09:39 PM
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Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-896615	Nine runs? Christ, maybe we should sit Albert more often.
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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7129572	Colby Rasmus: Why I love compensation for Type A Free Agents __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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Chief Henry MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: IOWA Casino cash: $10005088	Radio guys just said the D-Backs are beating the cubs 6-1 at W'ville __________________ Patrick Mahomes...The only QB to ever play in the NFL with at least 5,000 passing yards in a single season and 5,000 passing yards in a single college season.
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04-29-2010, 05:51 PM	#864
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $-901038 VARSITY	By Jayson Stark ESPN.com Archive Ryan Howard might have rocked the world of baseball bean counters everywhere this week with his five-year, $125 million extension. But here's one thing he didn't do: Decimate the first-base free-agent market of 2011-12. Yeah, it's sad to report that Albert Pujols, Adrian Gonzalez, Prince Fielder and Lance Berkman don't have Howard around to keep them company, and feed them Subway footlongs, anymore. It won't be the same without him. But allow us to point out that the four guys Howard abandoned have 17 All-Star appearances, six Silver Sluggers, three Gold Gloves and 10 40-homer seasons among them. So there's an excellent chance they'll get paid slightly more than, say, Alex Cintron in 2012. So what does their market look like now? What are they worth? And are there enough teams out there to pay them what they're worth? You might be surprised. So let's take a look at the star-studded first-base class of 2011: Sir Albert If there's a living human who thinks Pujols will wind up playing anywhere other than St. Louis, please raise your hand. You need to get out more. The Cardinals' entire franchise is built around Pujols. They can't possibly let the best player on our planet walk -- or even make it to the auction. Right? Albert Pujols #5 1B St. Louis Cardinals "I don't even consider that a question," one GM said. "He's a god there. No way he leaves." So the debate about Pujols isn't where he's going. It's how monstrous his checks will be. And let's just say that when we asked his agent, Jeff Borris, what effect Howard's deal might have on his client's earning power, Borris actually laughed. "No contract has any effect on Albert," he said. "Albert is the best player in Major League Baseball. As great a superstar as Ryan Howard is, there's no comparison to Albert Pujols. He stands above all the rest." The Cardinals, you'll be stunned to learn, have noticed that, too. So we're not sure what they're waiting for. But the best guess is that they'll get that extension done during the winter. And although it's hard to comprehend where the dollars will land, you can bet that, as one baseball man put it, his annual salary "is going to start with a '3'" -- as in $30 million a year for seven or eight years (i.e., the biggest salary ever). __________________ Mahomes is not a game manager. Release the Kraken.
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04-30-2010, 09:03 AM	#866
Simply Red You Sweetie! Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2021206219 VARSITY	nice work on the 4-game sweep, i don't mind it as much, being it's the Cards, the Cards never really bothered me. If it were the Phillies it'd be another story. In all fairness to Atlanta, this 'losing-streak' is also a product of a few bad breaks. But no question, we're slumping.
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04-30-2010, 11:44 AM	#870
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $-901038 VARSITY	From an article on A-Rods arrogance from foxsports.com. This is why I loved Gibby growing up... Word of advice to Braden: Don’t issue threats, just do. The next time A-Rodsteps to the plate, send him a message. That's what Bob Gibson did in 1972 when a San Diego rookie named Derrel Thomas elaborately dug in for his first big-league at-bat against the Cardinals' Hall of Fame-bound pitcher. "'If you're going to dig, dig six feet,'" Dave Garcia, the Padres' third base coach at the time, recalls Gibson telling Thomas. Then Gibson threw the first pitch at Thomas’ neck. __________________ Mahomes is not a game manager. Release the Kraken.
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