***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by FD

There have been more deaths in King County, Washington than in Beijing. https://t.co/pbGa52jnrI pic.twitter.com/0N2xRYFW4T

— Infectious Diseases (@InfectiousDz) March 6, 2020

The U.S. right now is acting like Wuhan did at the beginning of this last December, treating the virus as a PR problem that will go away if you ignore it as opposed to a real threat. China adjusted eventually but can we?

Much of the media overhypes things. But I don’t think that the patients in Wuhan who were being treated on the hallway floors and waiting rooms, because they had run out of hospital beds, thought things had been overhyped.

I think the US will adjust but it remains to be seen how quickly. The irony is that the better job that they do with containment the smaller the problem seems and more people conclude it was an overblown faux pandemic.

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...avirus/607597/



Texas can only run 30 tests a day. If it breaks out in Texas or any of these other states you're never going to know until hospitals get overrun. Maybe that's by design.

Just . You are worse than the media over exaggerating this. Wash your hands regularly and don’t stick hands in mouth or touch face before doing so and you are fine.

[eDave]

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[Fish]

Originally Posted by eDave

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Dude...

[KCUnited]

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...1&postcount=74

[Mecca]

Man watching people just fan these flames is funny as ****, if you aren't sickly or old just relax you might get sick but you'll be fine.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Man watching people just fan these flames is funny as ****, if you aren't sickly or old just relax you might get sick but you'll be fine.

I think it's mostly just that most of us have older family members and are concerned on their behalf. I don't really care much if I get it, but it'd be devastating to unknowingly transmit it to a family member who has serious issues with it.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by TLO

"Look, the WHO has said there's about a three percent fatality rate on this virus and every time they say that they always qualify it and say we expect it to drop a lot once we understand the full extent of the virus. ... It's among us. This is a flu season, everybody, There are 18,000 deaths from the flu," he continued.

"Why aren't we worried about that?" he asked. "Why isn't the message: get your flu shot? You're much more likely to die of the flu than the coronavirus."

There are posters on here who believe the flu shot 1) causes autism and/or 2) causes the flu. I wish I was kidding.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I think it's mostly just that most of us have older family members and are concerned on their behalf. I don't really care much if I get it, but it'd be devastating to unknowingly transmit it to a family member who has serious issues with it.

This. Along with the clients I work with. I work with individuals that have special needs and all of them have health issues to some degree. I'm concerned for them as well.

[Clyde Frog]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

There are posters on here who believe the flu shot 1) causes autism and/or 2) causes the flu. I wish I was kidding.

The Earth is also flat and 500 years old.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by penguinz

Just . You are worse than the media over exaggerating this. Wash your hands regularly and don’t stick hands in mouth or touch face before doing so and you are fine.

This is some willful ignorance and assumes that I only care about myself personally.

Healthcare workers in full protection are picking this up. People are going to get it on crowded public transportation. Kids are going to cough in their grandma's face. Pretending it's not happening will actually make things much worse.

[LiveSteam]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

This is some willful ignorance and assumes that I only care about myself personally.

Healthcare workers in full protection are picking this up. People are going to get it on crowded public transportation. Kids are going to cough in their grandma's face. Pretending it's not happening will actually make things much worse.

Your care is to blame Trump..
And we all know it.

[Mennonite]

This thread has made me pro coronavirus.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by LiveSteam

You're care. Is to blame Trump..
And we all know it.

This is all just a huge game to you isn't it?

Come back in a month and see where we're at. It's going to get worse before it gets better.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

There are posters on here who believe the flu shot 1) causes autism and/or 2) causes the flu. I wish I was kidding.

BUT I GOT FLU SHOT AND I GOT FLU HERPERDERPER