***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

It's not a bad idea.

WTF man?

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Your posts are all spot on. I thank you for posting on this.

This that Post is Rep worthy

[FloridaMan88]

If this can lead to more strategically targeted social distancing, I am all for it...

As Florida’s confirmed coronavirus cases climbed past 700 on Saturday, Gov. Ron DeSantis said he is considering his most drastic move yet: Moving certain people at risk to isolation shelters.

DeSantis said his administration might put those who test positive for COVID-19 or show symptoms of the disease in shelters, such as abandoned convention centers or hotels, to prevent them from to prevent them from returning home and infecting those they live with.

Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/cor...#storylink=cpy

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by Monticore

People prioritize their anxiety differently, whether it’s health, money, ammo or toilet paper, trying to get everyone on the same page is impossible.

Food comes into play somewhere as well. As far as they same page, you're right.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

It's not a bad idea.

correct, it’s a disastrous horrible idea. A run on the banks right now? Are you insane?

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by stumppy

WTF man?

It took the Greeks three years to get full control of their own capital movement. To think that can't happen here is asinine.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by stumppy

WTF man?

In the deep end, that one is. Likes it, too.

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

what else can we do let it spread and see possible million + deaths ?

Americans are gonna have to learn to cope with this.

I would do what we have done with every other virus break out we have experienced in my life time - not freak the **** out.

I’m very much in the Ben Franklin camp of those who would surrender liberty for a little temporary security (and we aren’t even really getting security from these actions if you look at the economic aspect) deserve neither.

Sacrifice the masses to save the few. Makes sense.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

correct, it’s a disastrous horrible idea. A run on the banks right now? Are you insane?

Yup! Start a run on the banks and nobody will have to worry about toilet paper, just use the worthless cash.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Food comes into play somewhere as well. As far as they same page, you're right.

I also forgot the world champion Kanas City Chiefs football team, but yeah food kind of fits in there somewhere.

[crayzkirk]

Originally Posted by D2112

Over here they only let 50 people in at a time. There’s a long ass line outside but there’s plenty in the store now.

I saw a long line at Costco last weekend; didn't want to stand outside. Been working from home for the last 10 days. Will probably run by the one off Metcalf to see how it looks tomorrow. I'll stock up on soup, sardines,kale and crackers. Would like to get some eggs; they pack a lot of value.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Yup! Start a run on the banks and nobody will have to worry about toilet paper, just use the worthless cash.

Is it a good time to invest ?

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Germany did this

https://www.thelocal.ch/20200312/mask-hysteria

and also had masks stolen that were bound for italy.


all kinds of bullshit is going down in the EU

American citizens are faking an illness to get access to the ER. They then steal all the masks and hand santizer. Even TP out of the restrooms. Our worse citizens ain’t better than their worse citizens.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Your posts are all spot on. I thank you for posting on this.

Yep agree. He has some great posts throughout the thread.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

I would do what we have done with every other virus break out we have experienced in my life time - not freak the **** out.

I’m very much in the Ben Franklin camp of those who would surrender liberty for a little temporary security (and we aren’t even really getting security from these actions if you look at the economic aspect) deserve neither.

Sacrifice the masses to save the few. Makes sense.

if it was only the US doing it I would be freaked but every country is planning or is already knee deep in a lockdown.

america will look like they are on a suicide mission if we don't shutdown at some point.