***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[eDave]

Smoke is showing proper use of ignore. I'm sure it's temporary.

[KChiefs1]

Good advice.


https://twitter.com/elemental/status...970112512?s=21

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

I actually did read it and I know who wrote it that tells me all i need to know about it.

You think he made up the graphs and charts and associated data? If so you must have something showing it so please share.

[Titty Meat]

HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE & AZITHROMYCIN, taken together, have a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine. The FDA has moved mountains - Thank You! Hopefully they will BOTH (H works better with A, International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents) be put in use IMMEDIATELY. PEOPLE ARE DYING, MOVE FAST, and GOD BLESS EVERYONE!

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Really? It is pretty widespread I believe.

You can watch this video from Italy but it is not for the high anxiety people like me (even though I did watch it and regretted it)

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...lapse-11961130

I don’t see anything in there about ARDS.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I said “if”. This is the first I’ve heard of ARDS associated with this virus. It’s just an account of one patient. No reason to think it’s widedpread.

I have been hearing a lot of reports of ARDS with this virus.

Cohort of 200 patients, 41 percent ARDS

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2763184

I have been hearing about ARDS for a month or so, at least.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I don’t see anything in there about ARDS.

watch the video of them spinning the patient

[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

hearing that other people are scared helps me cope with my own fear about it.

Unplug for a bit and enjoy the company of your family.

Easier said than done, but my anxiety has been reduced significantly by doing the above.

[Three7s]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Kansas City is under house arrest now...

Kansas City metro under stay-at-home order effective Tuesday as coronavirus spreads

Read more here: https://www.kansascity.com/news/coro...#storylink=cpy

Well, guess I won't be doing much for the next month.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

I don't do it to scare people.

I do it cause discussing it helps me cope.

No it doesn’t. Your anxiety is from a lack of feeling in control. Reading and reposting every thing you read does not help your anxiety because you aren’t thinking about anything. It’s all filtered through unstable emotions and your responses to them are all guided with the underlying desire to control. You can’t control people so you implore others to control other people thinking that will help your anxiety which is why you gravitate to any and all scenario or story you think will lead to that outcome.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

Unplug for a bit and enjoy the company of your family.

Easier said than done, but my anxiety has been reduced significantly by doing the above.

It's so hard for me to do this. My anxiety wants information. But the majority of the information just makes my anxiety worse. This is an awful cycle.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

I would like to know where he is getting his numbers and the break down. Because it is completely different from every other website.

Cases are growing at a rate of twice every two days, not three.

He seems to miss other obvious facts.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

No it doesn’t. Your anxiety is from a lack of feeling in control. Reading and reposting every thing you read does not help your anxiety because you aren’t thinking about anything. It’s all filtered through unstable emotions and your responses to them are all guided with the underlying desire to control. You can’t control people so you implore others to control other people thinking that will help your anxiety which is why you gravitate to any and all scenario or story you think will lead to that outcome.

This is true. I cling to the positive news and enjoy sharing that. But my happiness is short lived because I read something that is nothing but bad news.

[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by TLO

It's so hard for me to do this. My anxiety wants information. But the majority of the information just makes my anxiety worse. This is an awful cycle.

I was living that cycle, man. I’m glad I have become moderately numb to the onslaught of info being pumped out.

All we can actually do is wash our hands frequently and stay inside for the meantime. Hang in there, brother.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by SupDock

I have been hearing a lot of reports of ARDS with this virus.

Cohort of 200 patients, 41 percent ARDS

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2763184

I have been hearing about ARDS for a month or so, at least.

ahhh **** damn that’s really bad news.