*** Official Kansas City Royals @ Toronto Blue Jays ALCS Game 5 Thread ***

[alnorth]

Final	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	R	H	E
KC	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	1	4	0
TOR	0	1	0	0	0	4	1	1	X	7	8	0

Royals Lead the Series 3-2



Loss Edinson Volquez 5IP 5R 5ER 4BB 2K 1HR
Kelvin Herrera 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 3K
Danny Duffy 2IP 2R 2ER 0BB 5K

VS.



Win Marco Estrada 7⅔IP 1R 1ER 1BB 5K 1HR
Aaron Sanchez ⅓IP 0R 0ER 0BB 0K
Roberto Osuna 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 0K

Home Runs

KC

Salvador Perez - Top 8th solo shot to right

TOR

Chris Colabello - Bottom 2nd solo shot to center

NLCS

7:07 pm, NYM @ CHC

Starting Lineups

KC

1. Alcides Escobar, SS
2. Ben Zobrist, 2B
3. Lorenzo Cain, CF
4. Eric Hosmer, 1B
5. Kendrys Morales, DH
6. Mike Moustakas, 3B
7. Salvador Perez, C
8. Alex Gordon, LF
9. Alex Rios, RF

TOR

1. Ben Revere, LF
2. Josh Donaldson, 3B
3. Jose Bautista, RF
4. Edwin Encarnacion, DH
5. Chris Colabello, 1B
5. Justin Smoak, 1B
6. Troy Tulowitzki, SS
7. Russell Martin, C
8. Kevin Pillar, CF
9. Ryan Goins, 2B

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Hence why I used the term redemption. He gets another opportunity in arguably the biggest start of his career to show the opposite.

But Cueto "redeemed" himself already in Game 5 vs Houston right? That means his loss to Toronto the other day didn't matter, he'd already been redeemed. I mean if Price can wipe away an 0-7 record with 1 good start then Cueto's already there.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

But Cueto "redeemed" himself already in Game 5 vs Houston right? That means his loss to Toronto the other day didn't matter, he'd already been redeemed. I mean if Price can wipe away an 0-7 record with 1 good start then Cueto's already there.

Who said anything about wipe away? I just hope he starts changing the narrative about himself with a good start and gets us to a game 7. That would be nice.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

game changed when the ump didn't ring up Bautista on that beautiful 3-2 hook by Volquez. That was a strike. But eh, shit happens. Shouldn't have let that pitch get away to Donaldson before that. Hats off to Estrada.

Well it might have been/might have not been. Here's an interesting article on that pitch (both guys executed well on it): http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/edins...perfect-pitch/

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Well it might have been/might have not been. Here's an interesting article on that pitch (both guys executed well on it): http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/edins...perfect-pitch/

So that article just elaborated on my entire point. That pitch not being called a strike effectively ended the game

[Hootie]

though I'll give mad props to the way Edinson handled getting totally ****ed on that perfect 3-2 pitch to Bautista ... he didn't handle it like a Blue Jay, that's for sure. The ump was probably afraid to death of calling that perfect pitch a strike because Bautista would have ninja chucked his bat 3 miles ... the fans would have littered the field with garbage ... and Bautista would have bitched and moaned about it for the next 3 innings ...

Eddy just shook his head and moved on. Thank God.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

So that article just elaborated on my entire point. That pitch not being called a strike effectively ended the game

The Jays probably would have won regardless, I believe it was only a 10% swing. There was some serious debate about whether it was a strike or not, though, the pitch was that close.

[Hootie]

I don't buy into that FG % bullshit. It's ****ing stupid.

The fact of the matter is ... as soon as he loaded up the bases with nobody out, the game was over. I know that as a baseball fan.

1st and 2nd with 1 out? No. Get out of that 1-0 and the Royals are still very much in the game.

You're not getting out of a bases loaded, nobody out jam very often.

That pitch should have been called a strike. Plain and simple. It was such a good pitch it fooled the umpire. Or the Royals were up 3-1 playing in Toronto so he gave the home team the benefit of the doubt / didn't want to put up with Baby Bautista and the white trash slumdog crowd of Toronto heaving shit on to the field for 30 minutes

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I don't buy into that FG % bullshit. It's ****ing stupid.

So you don't buy into the history of baseball, then, because that is what those percentages are based on.

That pitch should have been called a strike. Plain and simple.

Well if you actually read the article, you'd know it wasn't quite that plain and simple. Far from it, really.

Or the Royals were up 3-1 playing in Toronto so he gave the home team the benefit of the doubt / didn't want to put up with Baby Bautista and the white trash slumdog crowd of Toronto heaving shit on to the field for 30 minutes

Why so hostile? I do have to say that I love how nervous this supposed "paper team" is making you, though.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

No reason to be 'nervous' now. Back to the friendly confines of the Midwest.

(where you don't have to be worried about your infant child getting pelted with a beer bottle because of a bad call by an ump)

Perks of the Midwest in the good 'ol USA.

[Hootie]

the history of baseball has nothing to do with the present of this series

I watched Boston battle back down 3-0

I saw the Cubs choke away their chance at a WS up 3-1

I know a few things:

1) The Royals are going to be favored to lose game 6. Price > Ventura.

So I have a hard time believing the 75% figure people are throwing around. I give us a 65% chance to advance to the WS at this point.

I'd rather be on the 65 side opposed to the 35 side ... but the 3-2 with 2 in KC is irrelevant. It's two 1 game series for the Blue Jays. We're going to get their absolute best shot game 6 ... and any advantage we have in game 7 is strictly due to the fact that our bullpen >>>>> Toronto. But I'd imagine our kryptonite, Marco Estrada, will be the first Jay out of the pen game 7 if needed.

[Shawny2X4]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

The Jays probably would have won regardless, I believe it was only a 10% swing. There was some serious debate about whether it was a strike or not, though, the pitch was that close.

True, but if we get out of the sixth with the Jays up 2-0 or 3-0 there's a bigger chance that Gibbons would have replaced Estrada with Price.

[suzzer99]

Which we may be happy he didn't. We'll be seeing Price for the second time in a few days. We seem to light up Price about 1 in 3 times we see him. 0-7 in the playoffs - all the pressure is on him.

[ARROW2]

Yeah but he did pitch pretty good in game 2. **** the blow jays and ANYBODY who supports those whining ass bitches.

[Why Not?]

Look at the numbers. Price 22 innings against the Royals, 11 runs. I garuntee you nobody in that lineup is afraid of David Price

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Who said anything about wipe away? .

That's what the word "redeemed" means.