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Old 02-10-2021, 01:40 PM  
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Report: Orlando Brown requests trade from Ravens, wants to play LT

Moving on from Fisher? Probably not.

Cap room for him? Not really, but moves could be made.

Draft capital for him? Maybe, but we're awfully low in the draft.

Tunsil trade (For record-keeping purposes, the trade saw the Dolphins acquire first-round picks in 2020 and 2021 and a second-round pick in 2021 along with offensive tackle Julién Davenport and defensive back Johnson Bademosi in exchange for Tunsil, wide receiver Kenny Stills, a 2020 fourth-round pick and a 2021 sixth-round selection.)



https://www.nfl.com/news/orlando-bro...nts-to-play-lt


It only took the Ravens a little over a year to learn their selection of Orlando Brown was a wise one, but they've met a new challenge with the tackle that could be their last.

Brown has expressed his desire to be traded, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Wednesday. After spending the majority of 2020 on the left side in place of the injured Ronnie Stanley, Brown has found his comfort zone and does not want to return to the right side. He'll only play for a team that will line him up at his preferred left tackle position, per Rapoport.

Rapoport added the Ravens value Brown significantly and would need major compensation in order to do a deal.

Brown's background is on the left side, but he ended up in Baltimore as a right tackle after a poor pre-draft showing saw him slide from a first-round projection to an eventual third-round pick of the Ravens. He blossomed in 2019 and especially in 2020 after switching to the left side to replace Stanley, earning his second straight trip to the Pro Bowl -- and first as an initial selection. Thanks to Brown's quick adjustment to the left side of the line, Baltimore didn't lose much in offensive production following Stanley's injury, finishing as the league's No. 1 rushing offense for a second straight season.

Brown's success on the left side and desire to remain there might very well also be tied to the financial ramifications of the tackle position. As it currently stands, there is a $5 million per year difference between the league's highest-paid right tackle (Philadelphia's Lane Johnson) and left tackle (Green Bay's David Bakhtiari). Of the top 10 highest-paid tackles in the NFL (in terms of average salary per year), only two -- Johnson and Las Vegas' Trent Brown -- are right tackles.

Orlando Brown missed out on significant money typically afforded to first-round picks right around the moment when he racked the bar after just 14 bench-press reps during a nightmarish 2018 NFL Scouting Combine. He's made a little over $1.8 million in base salary total in his first three seasons, and though he will see a significant boost in 2021 (base salary of $3.38 million) due to the structure of his rookie deal, that's still an incredibly far cry from where tackles of his level land in compensation ranking.

After demonstrating his ability to effectively handle the transition from right to left tackle -- a return to his roots, essentially -- Brown is in a prime position to capitalize financially and beyond. He'll maximize his earning potential by remaining a left tackle, and he'll probably enjoy playing the game a bit more in a stance and vantage point that's more familiar to him, anyway.


If that doesn't fit in Baltimore, the Ravens will have to move him. And though this isn't exactly the best way to ensure maximum leverage in a deal, they'll probably still get a haul for him.
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Old 04-23-2021, 08:06 PM   #871
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are we sure veach doesn't have baltimore mafia ties?
I hope he does. Send mark andrews over next. I’m thinking, next years first for Andrew’s and our first back this year. Sounds like a veach deal!
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Old 04-23-2021, 08:08 PM   #872
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Also, I like our Roster right now without the draft... would like to add a combo of either LB, Edge, and WR with the 2 twos to really be strong.
It’s a surprisingly good roster at the moment. I’d really like to add a wide out who can at least be an upgrade over D-rob and ideally upgrade Taco/find Clark’s replacement. But no complaints. I think they’re Ok rolling into the season with this line backer group. And also think they resign breeland.
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Old 04-26-2021, 12:29 PM   #873
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Stop with this stupid shit guys. I’m sure the Ravens would love sending a good player to the Chiefs to help them get better.

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A Top 40 pick AND a 20+ million dollar a year long term contract?

No thanks.


Sign a solid stop-gap and draft a fattie to take over next year or the year after.

I like Veach’s plan better.
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As for Brown, he CAN play LT but Stanley is simply BETTER. They can't afford to keep both of them, due to the contract demands, so Brown is the odd man out.

That doesn't mean I want Brown - I honestly don't think he's a great fit in KC for a LT but he IS an NFL left tackle and somebody will likely pick him up at some point because Baltimore simply can't keep him.
You don’t think he’s a fit? Why?
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Bet me then.

If we trade for Orlando Brown, I can’t post for a month. If we sign Trent Williams, you can’t post for a month.

If neither happens....then nothing happens.

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he's a bad fit, and the property of a conference rival. No way they'd send a good player to us.

It's really not rocket science.

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You don’t think he’s a fit? Why?
I didn't think he was at the time I posted that. My thinking on the subject has changed radically over the past couple of weeks as I narrowed in on the available options in the draft and realized that Brown was 1) better at LT than I gave him a credit for and 2) a FAR better use of draft assets than trading up for a tackle.
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My thinking on the subject has changed radically over the past couple of weeks as I narrowed in on the available options in the draft and realized that Brown was 1) better at LT than I gave him a credit for and 2) a FAR better use of draft assets than trading up for a tackle.
Brown played LT in Baltimore last season when Stanley went down & he was a LT at OU for 4 seasons. I always thought he was a good option after Williams resigned with the 49ers.

Totally agree on what it would have taken to move up to get an unproven LT in this draft. There are plenty of OT's in the draft but very few if any can't miss ones.
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Brown played LT in Baltimore last season when Stanley went down & he was a LT at OU for 4 seasons. I always thought he was a good option after Williams resigned with the 49ers.

Totally agree on what it would have taken to move up to get an unproven LT in this draft. There are plenty of OT's in the draft but very few if any can't miss ones.
Yeah, my thinking on the trade hasn't changed.

I always thought trading for Brown was a better option than trading up.

What changed was how I saw the trade for Brown against the options OTHER than trading up, especially knowing in hindsight that we got a 2nd round pick out of the deal.

My list kind of looked like this:

1. Trade down.
2. Stay put.
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5. Trade for Brown.
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100. Trade up.

As of about two weeks ago, it was kind of like this:

1. Stay put.
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4. Trade for Brown.
5. Trade down.
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1000. Trade up.

About Wednesday of last week, it just kind of hit me that trading for Brown was probably a great situation for both he and KC. He quickly moved to the #2 option for me and then the trade happened on Friday and we all saw that 2nd rounder come in.

By far the best possible outcome in my mind.
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I like Veach’s plan better.
To be fair, he's on his rookie deal this year and we're only paying him $3 mil. right now.

And I did not think we would be getting a 2nd round pick back in the deal.


But it was a good move by Veach, despite my hesitancy in the beginning. Guess that's why he's the GM and not me . . . . . .
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