Other Sports Players Kneeling for Anthem Met with Boos Before MLS Game in Texas - Page 6

Deberg_1990 · 08-13-2020, 10:19 AM

I imagine this is what the NFL will receive as well......

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/san...sts_po-organic

FRISCO, Texas -- There was a smattering of boos when players from FC Dallas and Nashville SC collectively took a knee during the national anthem before their MLS game on Wednesday night in Frisco, Texas.

Dallas defender Reggie Cannon said he was disgusted by the boos at Toyota Stadium when players and officials knelt to call attention to racial injustice. He said teammate Ryan Hollingshead turned to him afterward and said he was sorry.

“You can’t even have support from your own fans in your own stadium. It’s baffling to me,” Cannon said. “As a team we try to give the best possible product on the field and these last six months have been absolute hell for us. Absolute hell.”

Dallas and Nashville had not played a game since the season was suspended on March 12 because of the coronavirus. While Major League Soccer’s other teams played in the MLS is Back tournament in Florida over the past month, Dallas and Nashville were forced to withdraw before the start because of positive COVID-19 tests among players from both teams.

The teams met as MLS restarts the regular season in local markets. Some of the games will include fans if local jurisdictions allow it. Just over 5,000 were allowed to attend the match at Toyota Stadium, although the crowd that showed up appeared smaller.

Nashville won the game, 1-0. The two teams meet again on Sunday.

The death of George Floyd has spurred a number of MLS players to form the group Black Players for Change, which seeks to address systemic racism in soccer and society.

At the opening game of the MLS tournament in Florida, members of the group collectively stood in silence, fists raised, for more than eight minutes. Players and coaches wore Black Lives Matter T-shirts throughout the event.

Eight minutes, 46 seconds is the length of time prosecutors say Floyd, a 46-year-old Black man, was pinned to the ground under a white Minneapolis police officer’s knee before he died.

The anthem was not played before games at the tournament. Cannon said the players had asked that it not be played before the game because they didn’t feel it was right “for the anthem to be played in this moment.”

“We had someone chanting U.S.A., but they don’t understand what kneeling means. They don’t understand why we’re kneeling. They can’t see the reason. They think we’re the ignorant ones,” Cannon said. “It’s incredibly frustrating. I’m sorry to have this tone, but you have to call it for what it is.”

Cannon said he expected to have some negative pushback over the unified response.

“It hurts me because I love our fans, I love this club, and I want to see the support that the league has given us, that everyone has given us, from our fans,” he said.

staylor26 · 08-13-2020, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

They are getting paid right? The fans are the ones supporting the sport, right?

While true, they have every right to use their platform how they see fit and you have every right to no longer support it should you choose to do so.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-13-2020, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

Well, if we are being honest, TV contracts are the largest support system for the players bank accounts. Fan revenue makes up about 15%, IIRC

And only about half of that 15% actually goes to player salaries.

staylor26 · 08-13-2020, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

And only about half of that 15% actually goes to player salaries.

And without the fans, there would be no TV contracts in the first place

Chiefspants · 08-13-2020, 05:50 PM

I think Kaep would tell everyone that a big aspect of his protests was to generate a reaction that started a conversation.

I know it has to be disheartening to be booed, but it seems like that's part of the risk you're taking when you protest in a public place like that. Furthermore, it means your message isn't hitting the choir, it's hitting the original intended audience.

staylor26 · 08-13-2020, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants

I think Kaep would tell everyone that a big aspect of his protests was to generate a reaction that started a conversation.

I know it has to be disheartening to be booed, but it seems like that's part of the risk you're taking when you protest in a public place like that. Furthermore, it means your message isn't hitting the choir, it's hitting the original intended audience.

You guys give Kaep way too much ****ing credit.

I don’t have a problem with the message, but he was an awful messenger and flat out disingenuous.

He quickly became a joke to people like myself when he wore a Castro shirt and praised him in Miami of all places. Dude is a clueless ****ing moron that was radicalized by his gf after getting benched.

He hates corporate America, but he has no problem taking a huge check from Nike and Disney?

He’s a phony. Let’s just call a spade a spade regardless of how we feel about the message itself.

DJJasonp · 08-13-2020, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants

I think Kaep would tell everyone that a big aspect of his protests was to generate a reaction that started a conversation.

I know it has to be disheartening to be booed, but it seems like that's part of the risk you're taking when you protest in a public place like that. Furthermore, it means your message isn't hitting the choir, it's hitting the original intended audience.

And if Kaep had truth syrum in him, he'd also admit that the kneeling, in the very beginning, was nothing more than a petulant child's reaction to being benched.

It spiraled out of control from there......

Chiefspants · 08-13-2020, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

You guys give Kaep way too much ****ing credit.

I don’t have a problem with the message, but he was an awful messenger and flat out disingenuous.

Kaep was in way over his head from Day 1 and had zero idea the powder keg he was about to unleash. He also has made it really, really difficult to get hired by an NFL team and his SO even seemed to sabotage his chances with the Ravens.

With that said, I think at the base level he'd say he was wanting to start a conversation.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-13-2020, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

And without the fans, there would be no TV contracts in the first place

In 2018, the last season with kneeling, TV ratings dropped about 8%, and revenue increased by $700M. Ironically, TV ratings were down that year across the board, not just in football.

The Panthers were sold for a record $2.2B, even though they are in a small market.

The NFL is the most lucrative sports league in the world, and a few pissbabies claiming they're not watching (when they really are) isn't going hurt the league one bit.

staylor26 · 08-13-2020, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

In 2018, the last season with kneeling, TV ratings dropped about 8%, and revenue increased by $700M. Ironically, TV ratings were down that year across the board, not just in football.

The Panthers were sold for a record $2.2B, even though they are in a small market.

The NFL is the most lucrative sports league in the world, and a few pissbabies claiming they're not watching (when they really are) isn't going hurt the league one bit.

I never said it was.

staylor26 · 08-13-2020, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Kaep was in way over his head from Day 1 and had zero idea the powder keg he was about to unleash. He also has made it really, really difficult to get hired by an NFL team and his SO even seemed to sabotage his chances with the Ravens.

With that said, I think at the base level he'd say he was wanting to start a conversation.

I hear ya, but if he wanted to start a conversation then why did he never have anything of substance to say? Anytime he’s opened him mouth he’s come off as a radical leftist and borderline Marxist.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-13-2020, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

I never said it was.

That's exactly what you implied.

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Originally Posted by staylor26

And without the fans, there would be no TV contracts in the first place

In58men · 08-13-2020, 06:08 PM

People still think it’s about the flag?!?!

How is it that people say it’s about the flag when it’s Kaep protest and he says it’s not? Wild.

Deberg_1990 · 08-13-2020, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

You guys give Kaep way too much ****ing credit.

I don’t have a problem with the message, but he was an awful messenger and flat out disingenuous.

He quickly became a joke to people like myself when he wore a Castro shirt and praised him in Miami of all places. Dude is a clueless ****ing moron that was radicalized by his gf after getting benched.

He hates corporate America, but he has no problem taking a huge check from Nike and Disney?

He’s a phony. Let’s just call a spade a spade regardless of how we feel about the message itself.

He’s all “down with America” and it’s values on one hand, but has no problem reaping the monetary benefits And luxuries that America provides on the other hand.

Your right, he’s a fake.

staylor26 · 08-13-2020, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

That's exactly what you implied.

No, it really wasn’t. There was nothing being implied. I was just stating the truth.

mr. tegu · 08-13-2020, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants

I think Kaep would tell everyone that a big aspect of his protests was to generate a reaction that started a conversation.

I know it has to be disheartening to be booed, but it seems like that's part of the risk you're taking when you protest in a public place like that. Furthermore, it means your message isn't hitting the choir, it's hitting the original intended audience.

Judging by some of the players comments they only want to hit the choir.

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