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Old 12-02-2018, 04:42 PM  
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Kareem Hunt or Sammy Watkins?

Does our offense miss Kareem Hunt or Sammy Watkins more?
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Old 12-03-2018, 01:11 PM   #76
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If he stays on the list this season and through the playoffs, he'd have been clean next year. Morever, if my memory serves (as it applied to Randy Gregory and Josh Gordon), games spent on the suspended list don't accrue towards FA. As such, there's a good chance he'd have ended up an Restricted Free Agent because his contract would've run before he was eligible for unrestricted free agency and the Chiefs would've gotten an additional cheap year of him.

I'm not entirely convinced he wouldn't have ended up playoff eligible. The league is REALLY reticent to suspend someone for the post-season. He'd have been suspended for the last 5 weeks of the season (via the exempt list and an actual suspension) and he'd have been fined whatever amount he made during his stay on the exempt list to effectively make it a 5 game unpaid suspension.

Even if he wouldn't have played again this year, there's no way this would've been around him next year as well. And everyone will have forgotten about it by then as he came into the season with a fresh start.

It was a rash decision from Clark and an incredibly stupid one long-term. It's going to cost us draft capital, FA$ and/or both at t a time where we can ill afford to burn either of them given the extensions we need to offer and/or picks we need to use to backfill those we can't extend. Hell, we need basic improvements on this roster.

It was shortsighted, petty and foolish.
I agree with this post, they made a PR move not a football move.
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Old 12-03-2018, 01:12 PM   #77
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I agree with this post, they made a PR move not a football move.
As if that makes it wrong.
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Old 12-03-2018, 01:14 PM   #78
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Hunt for sure. Teams feared him and they don't Watkins.

Mahomes they fear, Kelce they fear, Tyreek they fear. Not Watkins.
Teams most certainly do fear Sammy Watkins. He forces the coverage to be evenly spread and not just focused on Hill and Kelces. Our passing game is clean and smooth with Watkins healthy and on the field.

Hunt also forces defenses to play the field more honestly. He also is a major weapon coming out of the backfield and catching passes.

When Watkins got hurt the change to our offense was noticeable even with Hunt still around. Having Hunt and Watkins both gone really hurts.

The entire team is being dumped on the shoulders of Mahomes.
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Old 12-03-2018, 01:19 PM   #79
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But as it turned out, the Chiefs passed on about 56% of their snaps on Sunday. Only twice this season — in Week 1 and Week 2 against the Los Angeles Chargers and Pittsburgh Steelers — did they pass on a smaller percentage of their plays.

And the Chiefs gained more yards on the ground — 174 — than any game this season except against the Cincinnati Bengals.


Does that mean I was wrong? It might. Or it might not.

Through the first three quarters, the Chiefs were leading 33-16. Up to that point, they had passed on 61% of their offensive snaps. In the fourth quarter, they passed on just 41%. So you could argue that the strategy that put the Raiders away depended more heavily on the pass.

Further, a big chunk of the rushing yardage came from two outliers — a Patrick Mahomes scramble that gained 28 yards, along with a 33-yard end-around from Tyreek Hill.

Hunt and Ware combined for 4.7 yards a carry through 11 games. Ware and Williams combined for 5.0 against the Raiders.
Spencer Ware’s rushing numbers actually weren’t very good on Sunday. He had just 47 yards on 14 carries — just 3.4 yards per attempt. Those aren’t impressive numbers. It would be pretty easy to look at them and say, “Oh, boy! We’re in trouble!”

But it might be more instructive to compare what the Chiefs have done this season with Hunt and Ware together with what Ware and Damien Williams did together against Oakland. When you look at it that way, Hunt and Ware combined for 4.7 yards a carry through 11 games. Ware and Williams combined for 5.0 against the Raiders.
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Old 12-03-2018, 02:06 PM   #80
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Old 12-03-2018, 02:08 PM   #81
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Old 12-03-2018, 02:20 PM   #82
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So I guess no one signed Kareem, or would we know?
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Old 12-03-2018, 02:59 PM   #83
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It was pretty obvious that Andy Reid was almost forcing the issue with the running game yesterday.
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Old 12-03-2018, 03:15 PM   #84
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There's simply not enough of a sample size to judge the running game post-Hunt yet. Some people are just projecting their fears onto a game where there wasn't a ton of evidence that Hunt's absence was a massive issue.
Considering they had, like, uh day to shift the scheme to a running back that hasn't taken full practice reps with the first team yet this season, I thought they did ok.
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