Chiefs PFF Grades the Chiefs, Week 4 - Page 6

Hammock Parties · 10-03-2011, 05:28 PM

Wow, they got these up fast.

1. Branden Albert - had his best game of the year. Positive grades in run blocking and pass blocking. 0 pressures, sacks or hits allowed.

2. Ryan Lilja was awful and this guy needs to be replaced.

3. Barry Richardson was toasted. -3.4 pass blocking grade and 5 QB pressures.

4. Matt Cassel had an outstanding grade as expected. He also was credited with two sacks.

5. Despite what people are saying, Tyson, Gregg and Dorsey had very average games.

6. Tamba Hali was a freaking BEAST with a +7.4, 7 QB pressures, 2 sacks and 2 hits. AND three stops. That is unheard of.

7. Derrick Johnson and Jovan Belcher continued their excellent play. They combined for nine stops (6 to DJ) and 13 tackles overall.

8. Justin Houston had a terrible game, and only rushed the passer one time. He was beaten 4 times for 66 yards.

9. Sabby Pissandshitty was only on the field for 13 snaps.

10. Donald Washington was on the field for 66 snaps and got roasted, giving up 5 catches for 60 yards in 5 targets.

11. Brandon Flowers did not give up a catch.

O.city · 10-03-2011, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Three7s

I dunno about drastic. Richardson and Lilja have been shit. The others have been good though.

Richardson has been better this year than he was last year. Lilja on the other hand has been a bag of crap.

milkman · 10-03-2011, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

He has 4 sacks (as many as Tamba) and two forced fumbles despite rushing 60% less than Tamba does.

He's a blitzer, you dumbass.

aturnis · 10-03-2011, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

He's a blitzer, you dumbass.

You mean when he rushes it a surprise attack? Oh, ok.

Hammock Parties · 10-03-2011, 10:38 PM

Cassel is now the 20th rated QB.

Sad to say...the Hamas prophesy rolls on.

Quesadilla Joe · 10-03-2011, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

He's a blitzer, you dumbass.

He never blitzes. He is a DE most of the time in our nickle package.

Hammock Parties · 10-04-2011, 02:21 AM

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...chiefs-week-4/

Minnesota – Three Performances of Note
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1) Kevin Williams back on form
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Kevin Williams took another step towards rediscovering his best form against the Chiefs. A week after a solid display against the Lions, Williams took another step forward in both run defense and as a pass rusher. Williams registered a hit and two pressures rushing the passer and was a persistent pain for the entire Chiefs offensive line. On separate occasions, Williams beat all five Kansas City linemen for positive plays and only Casey Wiegmann was able to get the better of him even on one occasion. As Williams knifed in to the backfield and took down LeRon McClain in the backfield for a two yard loss at 8:09 in the first quarter, he showed the sort of destructive player he was, and still is even without the company of Pat Williams. Can he rediscover his best form this season as other defensive tackles struggle around him?
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2) Trouble running left
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At times you wonder what Adrian Peterson could do with a little bit of help from his offensive line. For the fourth straight week he collected close to three quarters of his rushing yardage after first contact. Peterson was able to break one run off left end for 14 yards but aside from that, his longest run was only 7 yards and only averaged over 4 yards per carry (aside from left end) through one point of attack: 4.8 yards per carry off middle right. The Vikings have changed offensive scheme this season but right now it simply isn’t paying dividends. Steve Hutchinson is a shadow of his former self, grading negatively as a run block for the third time this season and has only one game above +1.0 in the last two seasons. The rest of the offensive line has simply never been up to standard as a run blocking unit and if the Vikings are to make use of Peterson and give Christian Ponder (who will surely see action sometime this season now) a stable platform to have any chance of success then it is looking increasingly like they need to overhaul their offensive line personnel.
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3) It only takes three snaps
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Tyrell Johnson played in only three defensive snaps for the Vikings, but in that space of time managed to miss a tackle and get caught taking a dreadful angle in pass coverage on a post route by Steve Breaston. The Vikings have struggled to find safeties since they let Darren Sharper go, in Husain Abdullah they have found one solid performer but those three snaps by Johnson showed just why Jamarca Sanford has been given a shot at starting this season. Sanford himself was at fault in this game, missing a tackle on Dwayne Bowe’s decisive touchdown reception.
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Kansas City – Three Performances of Note
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1) Coming up smelling like roses
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Brandon Flowers last week looked down and out, fears of another Chief down with an ACL tear were quickly put to bed but the dreaded term “high ankle sprain” would have put some fear in to the Kansas City fans. Those fears passed as Flowers returned to the field, and did so at his best. Flowers was targeted twice and didn’t yield a catch to Devin Aromashodu or Bernard Berrian on those two chances. With little pass rush to come by, that’s an impressive display, Chiefs fans can at least be optimistic of more of the same from Flowers this season; they finally dodged an injury bullet in 2011.
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2) One man wrecking crew
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Tamba Hali got used to carrying the load for the Kansas City pass rush in 2010 and against the Vikings this week it was business as usual for him and his fellow Kansas City defenders. As a unit they registered two sacks, two hits, and 12 pressures. Take Hali out of that working group and that number drops to just five pressures. As a comparison, Hali registered pressure in some form 11 times on 30 pass rushes – better than 1-in-3 opportunities. The rest of the Kansas City defenders got their five on 102 combined rushes, worse than 1-in-20. Where would Kansas City be without the Penn State alum?
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3) The same McClain?
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The Chiefs picked up a trio of players from the team that knocked them out of last year’s playoffs and right now they aren’t getting the expected returns on those investments. Jared Gaither can’t get on the field (when he did last week he false started), Kelly Gregg is show signs of age and is being out-performed by Amon Gordon, and Le’Ron McClain looks a shadow of the player he was for the Ravens. McClain in Baltimore was a big bodied, punishing lead blocker, runner and receiver; in Kansas City he looks noticeably thinner and doesn’t bring anything like that sort of strength in any facet of the game. McClain is still listed at 260lb but he doesn’t look that big and really struggled in this game with the likes of Henderson brothers. If the intent was to slim McClain down to give him the speed to lead for Jamaal Charles, then the Chiefs will now be desperate to have his power game back.
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Game Notes

● Matt Cassel looked downfield (20 yards or more) only three times in this game, but completed all three for 108 yards and a touchdown.
● Due to a knee injury, Erin Henderson took his brother EJ’s snaps in the Vikings’ sub packages. The younger Henderson played every defensive snap for the first time in his professional career.
● Phil Loadholt yielded two sacks in this encounter. This marked the first time he allowed two sacks since the Vikings’ divisional playoff victory in his 2009 rookie season against the Dallas Cowboys.
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PFF Game Ball

Brandon Flowers, CB, Kansas City Chiefs

Just a week after going down injured with what at the time looked like another season-ending injury for the Chiefs, Flowers was back at his best. In 34 snaps in coverage he was targeted only twice and didn’t yield a single catch.

**Tribal Warfare** · 10-04-2011, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse

Cassel is now the 20th rated QB.

Sad to say...the Hamas prophesy rolls on.

and his QB rating will plummet against murders row when those games pop up in the schedule.

**SAUTO** · 10-04-2011, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

He never blitzes. He is a DE most of the time in our nickle package.

lol, you can say this because you dont actually watch the games...

Chiefnj2 · 10-04-2011, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

and his QB rating will plummet against murders row when those games pop up in the schedule.

You realize that as of today the Bears, Packers and Pats are 3 of the bottom 4 pass D teams in the league?

O.city · 10-04-2011, 07:17 AM

YEah that murders row part is still bad, but it isn't quit what it looked like to begin the year.

Hammock Parties · 10-04-2011, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

You realize that as of today the Bears, Packers and Pats are 3 of the bottom 4 pass D teams in the league?

The Packers and Pats average 37/34 points a game. We are not beating those teams.

They might beat Chicago.

O.city · 10-04-2011, 07:21 AM

I could see Chicago, Pitt, and The Jets being close. Probably not but it could be.

Chiefnj2 · 10-04-2011, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse

The Packers and Pats average 37/34 points a game. We are not beating those teams.

They might beat Chicago.

Follow the conversation. Tribal talked about Cassel's QB rating plummeting while facing those teams, not winning the games.

Pasta Little Brioni · 10-04-2011, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

and his QB rating will plummet against murders row when those games pop up in the schedule.

You're doing it wrong....

Chiefnj2 · 10-04-2011, 09:57 AM

"Justin Houston had a terrible game, and only rushed the passer one time."

- Nice. That's like asking Cassel only to throw deep all day.

10-03-2011, 05:28 PM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4160478	PFF Grades the Chiefs, Week 4 Wow, they got these up fast. 1. Branden Albert - had his best game of the year. Positive grades in run blocking and pass blocking. 0 pressures, sacks or hits allowed. 2. Ryan Lilja was awful and this guy needs to be replaced. 3. Barry Richardson was toasted. -3.4 pass blocking grade and 5 QB pressures. 4. Matt Cassel had an outstanding grade as expected. He also was credited with two sacks. 5. Despite what people are saying, Tyson, Gregg and Dorsey had very average games. 6. Tamba Hali was a freaking BEAST with a +7.4, 7 QB pressures, 2 sacks and 2 hits. AND three stops. That is unheard of. 7. Derrick Johnson and Jovan Belcher continued their excellent play. They combined for nine stops (6 to DJ) and 13 tackles overall. 8. Justin Houston had a terrible game, and only rushed the passer one time. He was beaten 4 times for 66 yards. 9. Sabby Pissandshitty was only on the field for 13 snaps. 10. Donald Washington was on the field for 66 snaps and got roasted, giving up 5 catches for 60 yards in 5 targets. 11. Brandon Flowers did not give up a catch.
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10-03-2011, 10:38 PM	#79
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10-04-2011, 02:21 AM	#81
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4160478	http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...chiefs-week-4/ Minnesota – Three Performances of Note . 1) Kevin Williams back on form . Kevin Williams took another step towards rediscovering his best form against the Chiefs. A week after a solid display against the Lions, Williams took another step forward in both run defense and as a pass rusher. Williams registered a hit and two pressures rushing the passer and was a persistent pain for the entire Chiefs offensive line. On separate occasions, Williams beat all five Kansas City linemen for positive plays and only Casey Wiegmann was able to get the better of him even on one occasion. As Williams knifed in to the backfield and took down LeRon McClain in the backfield for a two yard loss at 8:09 in the first quarter, he showed the sort of destructive player he was, and still is even without the company of Pat Williams. Can he rediscover his best form this season as other defensive tackles struggle around him? . 2) Trouble running left . At times you wonder what Adrian Peterson could do with a little bit of help from his offensive line. For the fourth straight week he collected close to three quarters of his rushing yardage after first contact. Peterson was able to break one run off left end for 14 yards but aside from that, his longest run was only 7 yards and only averaged over 4 yards per carry (aside from left end) through one point of attack: 4.8 yards per carry off middle right. The Vikings have changed offensive scheme this season but right now it simply isn’t paying dividends. Steve Hutchinson is a shadow of his former self, grading negatively as a run block for the third time this season and has only one game above +1.0 in the last two seasons. The rest of the offensive line has simply never been up to standard as a run blocking unit and if the Vikings are to make use of Peterson and give Christian Ponder (who will surely see action sometime this season now) a stable platform to have any chance of success then it is looking increasingly like they need to overhaul their offensive line personnel. . 3) It only takes three snaps . Tyrell Johnson played in only three defensive snaps for the Vikings, but in that space of time managed to miss a tackle and get caught taking a dreadful angle in pass coverage on a post route by Steve Breaston. The Vikings have struggled to find safeties since they let Darren Sharper go, in Husain Abdullah they have found one solid performer but those three snaps by Johnson showed just why Jamarca Sanford has been given a shot at starting this season. Sanford himself was at fault in this game, missing a tackle on Dwayne Bowe’s decisive touchdown reception. . . Kansas City – Three Performances of Note . 1) Coming up smelling like roses . Brandon Flowers last week looked down and out, fears of another Chief down with an ACL tear were quickly put to bed but the dreaded term “high ankle sprain” would have put some fear in to the Kansas City fans. Those fears passed as Flowers returned to the field, and did so at his best. Flowers was targeted twice and didn’t yield a catch to Devin Aromashodu or Bernard Berrian on those two chances. With little pass rush to come by, that’s an impressive display, Chiefs fans can at least be optimistic of more of the same from Flowers this season; they finally dodged an injury bullet in 2011. . 2) One man wrecking crew . Tamba Hali got used to carrying the load for the Kansas City pass rush in 2010 and against the Vikings this week it was business as usual for him and his fellow Kansas City defenders. As a unit they registered two sacks, two hits, and 12 pressures. Take Hali out of that working group and that number drops to just five pressures. As a comparison, Hali registered pressure in some form 11 times on 30 pass rushes – better than 1-in-3 opportunities. The rest of the Kansas City defenders got their five on 102 combined rushes, worse than 1-in-20. Where would Kansas City be without the Penn State alum? . 3) The same McClain? . The Chiefs picked up a trio of players from the team that knocked them out of last year’s playoffs and right now they aren’t getting the expected returns on those investments. Jared Gaither can’t get on the field (when he did last week he false started), Kelly Gregg is show signs of age and is being out-performed by Amon Gordon, and Le’Ron McClain looks a shadow of the player he was for the Ravens. McClain in Baltimore was a big bodied, punishing lead blocker, runner and receiver; in Kansas City he looks noticeably thinner and doesn’t bring anything like that sort of strength in any facet of the game. McClain is still listed at 260lb but he doesn’t look that big and really struggled in this game with the likes of Henderson brothers. If the intent was to slim McClain down to give him the speed to lead for Jamaal Charles, then the Chiefs will now be desperate to have his power game back. . . Game Notes ● Matt Cassel looked downfield (20 yards or more) only three times in this game, but completed all three for 108 yards and a touchdown. ● Due to a knee injury, Erin Henderson took his brother EJ’s snaps in the Vikings’ sub packages. The younger Henderson played every defensive snap for the first time in his professional career. ● Phil Loadholt yielded two sacks in this encounter. This marked the first time he allowed two sacks since the Vikings’ divisional playoff victory in his 2009 rookie season against the Dallas Cowboys. . . PFF Game Ball Brandon Flowers, CB, Kansas City Chiefs Just a week after going down injured with what at the time looked like another season-ending injury for the Chiefs, Flowers was back at his best. In 34 snaps in coverage he was targeted only twice and didn’t yield a single catch. __________________ Chiefs game films
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10-04-2011, 07:21 AM	#87
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