ARE YOU BETTER OFF THAN YOU WERE FOUR YEARS AGO? - Page 6

KCJohnny · 12-01-2004, 10:11 PM

In 2000, we were 7-9 with many close games lost by a thin margin. Our offense was rated #8 in the NFL (#4 in passing), our defense # 18. We had a very inexeperienced HC learning the game from the top who held steady at .500 after ZERO years as a HC.

In 2004, we are 3-8, out of the post season, sickeningly bad on defense, high in O (yards) but bad in record. We have a coach who has guided 2 teams to the SB. He is 30-28 after four years, barely above .500 (sure to sink below this season) which is where Gunther Cunningham was after 2 seasons and NO previous HCing experience.

President Reagan once asked our country this storied question; I ask you now, are you better off now than you were four years ago?

**Bearcat** · 12-02-2004, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Jones

In the NFL you rarely make a continuous improvement year to year.

This was pretty much my thought when I read the title... well, more along the lines of "What kind of stupid #$*%)%$ question is that?!?!"

Here in 2004, it's hard to compare progress over 2 years.... 4 is absolutely absurd. Was Carolina better off last year than two years ago? What about this year than two years ago? Seattle? Atlanta?

Hell, just take a look at your team, Johnny... 1 win, 8 wins, 4 wins. Are you better off than you were two years ago?

**jAZ** · 12-02-2004, 11:53 AM

Is it possible to have KCJ's name changed to "Foul Weather Fan" or "Johnny Come Lately"???

KCJohnny · 12-02-2004, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by First Down Elvis

Could this team beat Guns teams?

Yes.

Could Gun's teams beat this team? Everyone else has. The closest thing we have to compare it to is the 54-34 shellacking of the 2000 Rams (still mostly intact from DV's Rams) by Gun's Chiefs.

Amnorix · 12-02-2004, 11:55 AM

Definitely. In the last 4 years the Patriots have won 2 Super Bowls and the Red Sox finally ended a ridiculous drought by not only winning the WS, but coming back from 3 games down in a 7 game series against the hated Yankees and pinning the "All Time Choker" tag on last year's Yankees team.

err...this post probably isn't going to make me very popular around here, is it...?

stevieray · 12-02-2004, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Could Gun's teams beat this team? Everyone else has. The closest thing we have to compare it to is the 54-34 shellacking of the 2000 Rams (still mostly intact from DV's Rams) by Gun's Chiefs.

Trent Green threw 3td's in that game, after Warner was injured.

**Bearcat** · 12-02-2004, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

and has yet to attain to the level that Marty got it to.

So, I don't have the numbers on me... how many more playoff games does DV have to lose before he gets to that level?

htismaqe · 12-02-2004, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

I would only be in favor of that if it caused CP to retire as a result.

BigChiefFan · 12-02-2004, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Gunther never had a THIRD season, either. Both coaches after 2 seasons:
Gun: 16-16
DV 14-18

That's the only fair way to compare them. I mean, c'mon dude, you're comparing a SB HOF caliber coach to a first time rookie HC.

That's not what you said, You said, and I quote "Its just not true that this team has performed any better than Gun's team, and has yet to attain to the level that Marty got it to."

Regardless of the time frame which you didn't stipulate, clearly a 13-4 season is head and shoulders better than anything Gunther did. Keep spinning though, it's fun seeing you actually try and sell the shit sandwich you are serving. Nobodies buying, but you keep on telling yourself there has to be a demand for your shit sandwich.

htismaqe · 12-02-2004, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GuntherBot

the 2000 Chiefs had no SB HC, no all-NFL tailback, and faced a tough schedule.

Vermeil didn't just walk into the room and pick up a feature back. Only Marty has to do that.

Vermeil went out and GOT ONE. Gunther could have done the same, if he had any clue what a featuer back looked like.

**ChiTown** · 12-02-2004, 01:04 PM

You are such a FN troll. Insult intended......

Otter · 12-02-2004, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Definitely. In the last 4 years the Patriots have won 2 Super Bowls and the Red Sox finally ended a ridiculous drought by not only winning the WS, but coming back from 3 games down in a 7 game series against the hated Yankees and pinning the "All Time Choker" tag on last year's Yankees team.

err...this post probably isn't going to make me very popular around here, is it...?

Don't forget to kick the dog on the way out.

**jAZ** · 12-02-2004, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Could Gun's teams beat this team? Everyone else has. The closest thing we have to compare it to is the 54-34 shellacking of the 2000 Rams (still mostly intact from DV's Rams) by Gun's Chiefs.

You might also compare it to our 56-10 ass kicking of a weak offense/strong defensive Atlanta team...

It's pointless to do, and Johnny is a punk-bitch for only showing up like a Denver troll when the team is down.

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