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Old 05-02-2006, 10:18 AM  
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So who got the better QB, K.C. or Denver?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ted/index.html

Yep, last year's overrated/underrated column was right on. Darren Sproles underrated? Check. Fabian Washington overrated? Check. In fact I bet this is another congratulatory call coming in now... Oh crap, it's Bears coach Lovie Smith. "You know I'm never going to let you live down that Tommie Harris/overrated bit two years ago."

Yeah, yeah, I know. Eli Manning still calls to taunt me every two weeks as well. What can I say, some years pan out better than others.

But I've got a good feeling about 2006.

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Overrated: Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt
Let me start by saying I do think the pride of the Commodores could well be a solid NFL quarterback. Considering he spent much of his career running from unblocked pass-rushers and throwing to third-rate SEC receivers (until last season, when freshman stud Earl Bennett came on the scene), Cutler's accomplishments at Vandy -- 3,073 yards, 21 touchdowns and nine interceptions as a senior -- were nothing short of remarkable. But the mere fact that many among the NFL cognoscenti are even thinking about taking Cutler ahead of the most dangerous quarterback to come through the college ranks in years (hint: rhymes with "rinse tongue") makes Cutler overrated -- and raises serious questions about how some of these scouts themselves would perform on the Wonderlic.

Underrated: Brodie Croyle, Alabama
Considering how much emphasis the NFL puts on arm strength, you'd think they'd be falling all over themselves for this guy. Croyle has a gun (just ask the Florida secondary). His mechanics are impeccable and his natural leadership abilities had a great deal to do with the Tide jumping out to a 9-0 start last season. I'm sure his substantial injury history (he underwent shoulder and ACL surgeries while in Tuscaloosa) is helping to knock him down the pecking order, but the fifth-year senior was a picture of health last season when he completed nearly 60 percent of his passes for 2,499 yards, 14 touchdowns and just four interceptions. This, despite the fact he played behind a horrendous offensive line that allowed 39 sacks and had to work with a largely unreliable receiving corps after Tyrone Prothro went down with a broken leg.
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Old 05-02-2006, 01:18 PM   #76
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I do think Cutler's mentality probably helped sell Shanahan... I don't think he'll be like Plummer and come over whining every time he makes a mistake. I know it's high school, but Cutler did play for one of the best football high schools in the state. His team went 47-4 in his four years at the school and he won a state title. I think Shanahan will use him to his strengths, it's a better pick than Griese because Cutler is a really good athlete and probably fit that offense better.

Croyle was a great pick for us because of the offense we run. There won't be a big of a learning curve as some of the other QB's. Both guys were lucky because they went to teams with good coaching staffs who will use them to their strengths.
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Old 05-02-2006, 01:22 PM   #77
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1. If you were to review my posts, you will find that I like Cutler very much. I think you should be concerned, however, that the Commodores' winning percentage is equivalent to the alcohol content in a Pepsi. And, as you well know, it is far too early to determine which, if either, pick will blossom.

2. My art has nothing to do with the circle jerk contest.

3. I, nor anyone I know, can take any responsibility whatsoever for the fact that your head coach is a bugger eater. That's just something your kind has to live with.

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Old 05-02-2006, 01:22 PM   #78
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Cutler went to Denver????

I didn't know he was gay.
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Old 05-02-2006, 01:26 PM   #79
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QBs are such a crapshoot that the best QB in this draft might turn out to be Hugh Jass who was drafted from Stinkhole State in the 7th round. There's no use even worrying about it for a few years at least.
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Old 05-02-2006, 01:26 PM   #80
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Denver did not draft Elway.
If that was for my benefit...I know dungver didn't draft Elway. I know he threw an Eli and got traded.

I also am not indicating that I believe Denver DID draft "another" Elway....merely a tongue in cheek at the "Denver is unpossible to beat at drafting QBs"


I still think is recockulous to say who is better when neither has taken an NFL snap.

Alot of First Round QBs end up worse at NFL football, than I am at golf.


Eggo Fans were pretty impressed with Ryan Leaf's combine numbers, size, arm stregth and college numbers......at one time.
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Old 05-02-2006, 01:26 PM   #81
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I must have missed where I directly attributed anything to you. Note the "I'd GUESS that people LIKE" in my post. Comprehension, Grasshopper.
When you specifically mention somone's name and tie it to a thought that is attributing the thought to the person. Had you used a generic name such as "Bronco Fans" it would have been different.
Conciseness and clarity, grasshopper.
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Old 05-02-2006, 01:27 PM   #82
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That shit might cut it in GoChiefs Gay2006HighSchoolPopularityCircleJerkMostPopularCPMemberEVAR111!!!
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d00d it's the l33+test thread...er... series of 30 threads or so... EVAR!!!
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Old 05-02-2006, 01:30 PM   #83
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Geezy Whillikans, Mr. vailpass!!!

1. If you were to review my posts, you will find that I like Cutler very much. I think you should be concerned, however, that the Commodores' winning percentage is equivalent to the alcohol content in a Pepsi. And, as you well know, it is far too early to determine which, if either, pick will blossom.

2. My art has nothing to do with the circle jerk contest.

3. I, nor anyone I know, can take any responsibility whatsoever for the fact that your head coach is a bugger eater. That's just something your kind has to live with.

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I'm sorry FAX, I left it to a weak-ass smilie at the bottom of my post to convey the fact that my entire response to you was tongue-in-cheek and meant as good natured fun. The good Chief fans here have allowed my enemy carcass to visit this place for a while now and I've seen some pretty good posters come and go. I enjoy your stuff as much as any of them.
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When you specifically mention somone's name and tie it to a thought that is attributing the thought to the person. Had you used a generic name such as "Bronco Fans" it would have been different.
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Maybe he can give Jay Cutler a call and ask him for advice on how to deal with losing.
Why? He's in KC, he'll get to experience it first hand and learn for himself.
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21 QB's drafted in the 3rd round since 1989...

1989: Erik Wilhelm, Anthony Dilweg
1990: Tommy HOdson, Peter Tom Willis, Neil O'Donnell
1993: Billy Joe Hobert
1995: Stoney Case, Eric Zeier
1996: Bobby Hoying
1998: Jonathan Quinn, Brian Griese
1999: Brock Huard
2000: Chris Redman, Giovanni Carmazzi
2002: Josh McCown
2003: Dave Ragone, Chris Simms
2004: Matt Schaub
2005: Charlie Frye, Andrew Walter, David Greene

Looking at this list, the only QB that ever amounted to a hill of beans was the one that Denver drafted, so it's clear that Croyle has no prayer playing QB in the NFL.

Matt Schaub

As far as I am concerned he is one of the best out of this bunch.

He did a pretty good job filling in for Vick when he was out. Allot of teams tried to lure him away from Atlanta to be thier QB.

That says allot for the young man!

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Matt Schaub

As far as I am concerned he is one of the best out of this bunch.
That is a success rate of 1 out of 21.

4.8%.

Schaub has started 2 games in 2 years and won neither of them. He is hardly a proven commodity.
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You know, I don't care who ends up being better. If they got Elway and we got Marino...happy days all around. I think people will look back on this draft and marvel that Croyle lasted as long as he did. I think he is an incredible QB prospect and I bet there are several teams that are upset now that the draft is over that they didn't take him sooner.


The Chiefs are finally in a position to develop both of their young QBs and get an honest to goodness succession plan in place for the day when Green can't go. That could happen at any time, so it's nice to get this started now.

Cutler is a strong kid, but Croyle has the more lively arm.
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