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Old 11-09-2007, 08:05 AM  
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deer season(gun) in missouri

starts tomorrow (sat).
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:05 AM   #76
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Who hunts "just for sport"? More garbage from people with no damn clue who make this crap up while they enjoy a steak and discuss forcing their beliefs on others.
A vast majority of the hunters I know hunt just for the sport. Last year 6,500 deer in Missouri were donated to share the harvest. Do you really think hunters are concerned with feeding the needy, or does this provide them a good ethical solution for the hunters that like hunting for the sport. When a young doe taste 10X's better than an old buck, why do so many hunters hold out for a big buck?

My brother still has deer from 2005 in the freezer, and he shot four more this weekend. He donated 2 of them to STH because it allows him to have the hunting experience without wasting the meat. We have an unwritten rule that you can't shoot a buck with a smaller rack than you have previously taken on the land, (got an 8 pointer last year, so this year I can't shoot an 8 pointer or less). For the meat I prefer a young doe over a buck anyday, but we hunt by Truman Lake where all of the deer are acorn fed, and they never get as big as the ones in Iowanian's pictures.

I do think that non-hunters think that the hunting experience is all about the killing, which is not correct. The "thrill" of the hunt is definately there, but hunting larger game especially is more of a respect thing for me. You can eat a burger without thinking twice about the cow, but when you shoot a deer you repect the fact that you have taken the life of an animal to provide food for you and your family. I don't think very many hunters shoot a deer, take the rack and leave the carcass, but I do think that deer hunting especially is a sport first, and just happens to be a means for food and land management. You see these hunters with the $5000 4-wheelers they get just to drag their deer out of the woods when you can get a full side of beef for $700. I would take a T-Bone steak over any piece of venison in a heart beat.
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:17 AM   #77
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thanks, and sorry i didn't make it. crazy weekend.

i was in my blind at 5:30am. at 7am, 2bucks came thru and the first one was a monster. sighted in and shot at 35 yards and he hunkered over like he was hit. so i sits back down and pour a cup of coffee and wait for 30minutes for him to die, just like the big boys on tv. never found it...no blood or nothing. i pulled a rookie buck fever choke and missed him completely. sickend me.

got back in the blind at 8am and sat down w/another cup of coffee and pouted. a little after 9 a average 10pointer came down the creek and i blasted it.

spent most of sunday grinding burger and making jerky.

didn't get out yesterday...had to take the mrs. to get a new car.

i'm ready to go back out next weekend.
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You process it the day after you kill it? What do the rest of the hunters here do? I was always taught that you should let it hang for a couple of days to "age" it, until regamortis loosens up, but with this warm weather you should quickly knock it down and get it in ice.

We don't run a bed and breakfast type deer camp, and our furthest stand is a 30 minute walk from the house and the part of the way is more of a bent over going backwards through cedar thicket than a walk. With a clean shot it takes an hour minimum to field dress a deer and drag it to the house, and the weather hasn't been cold enough for 5 or 6 years to let them hang, so we immediately skin it, knock it down, and get it in coolers with ice. An average Ozark doe can fit in one large cooler, and the cooler takes 3 bags of ice a day. We keep the meat in ice water with canning salt for the first 3 days, and fresh icewater for 2 more days before processing. Right now we have 4 deer in coolers at camp, so 4 coolers x's 3 bags of ice, x's 5 days is 60 bags of ice at $1.25 a piece.

Why we do it this way? Because my dad does it like that, because his dad did it like that, etc... If you can grind it the next day without affecting the taste I am all for that. It gets dark at 5:30, so instead of sitting around drinking beer all night, we could process the deer while drinking beer all night.
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:19 AM   #78
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Old 11-13-2007, 04:12 PM   #79
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You process it the day after you kill it? What do the rest of the hunters here do? I was always taught that you should let it hang for a couple of days to "age" it, until regamortis loosens up, but with this warm weather you should quickly knock it down and get it in ice.


We don't run a bed and breakfast type deer camp, and our furthest stand is a 30 minute walk from the house and the part of the way is more of a bent over going backwards through cedar thicket than a walk. With a clean shot it takes an hour minimum to field dress a deer and drag it to the house, and the weather hasn't been cold enough for 5 or 6 years to let them hang, so we immediately skin it, knock it down, and get it in coolers with ice. An average Ozark doe can fit in one large cooler, and the cooler takes 3 bags of ice a day. We keep the meat in ice water with canning salt for the first 3 days, and fresh icewater for 2 more days before processing. Right now we have 4 deer in coolers at camp, so 4 coolers x's 3 bags of ice, x's 5 days is 60 bags of ice at $1.25 a piece.

Why we do it this way? Because my dad does it like that, because his dad did it like that, etc... If you can grind it the next day without affecting the taste I am all for that. It gets dark at 5:30, so instead of sitting around drinking beer all night, we could process the deer while drinking beer all night.
i shot the buck at 9am.
gutted it in the woods and drug it back to the house which was about 100 yards thru the timber. hung it up and skinned it.
it was fairly cool the rest of saturday. but when i got up sunday morning it was too warm to leave it. so i went ahead and cut it up and ground it w/a large box of bacon ends.
i wouldn't have minded letting it hang another day if it wasn't so warm.

i used a jerky gun to make the strips and cooked the jerky in the smoker on my back porch while listening to the chiefs get orally ass-raped by mile-highs donks.

jerky tastes great...i'm about half done w/the deer, and ready to go out and fill another tag.
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Old 11-13-2007, 04:19 PM   #80
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This bow season, one of the things we'll be doing is making a large batch of jerky, and sending some to my brother's former unit, in the sand box.
You should make some deer jerky and then turn around and sell it to CP members
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Old 11-13-2007, 04:59 PM   #81
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Went out yesterday evening. Wasn't in the stand more than 10 minutes when a small doe probably 60-70 lbs came through. Was eating some corn for probably 30 minutes. I didn't shoot it thinking a buck would come up after it. Got dark and never saw a buck.
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Old 11-13-2007, 06:21 PM   #82
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Here you go. Opening day, 18 point buck shot it about 5pm on Saturday.

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Old 11-13-2007, 07:20 PM   #83
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:31 PM   #84
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:48 PM   #85
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Sat morning my dad landed a 9 pt buck and I was fortunate enough to get a 10 pointer.

I let a 3 pt, 4 pt, and button buck walk. The rest of the weekend didn't see much. The weather was too warm and the asshat farming the land next to my dads property didn't take his corn out so the deer took to the fields after opening morning and hunkered down.
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Old 11-14-2007, 08:01 AM   #86
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Sec did you here about Dr. Barns' deer?
short & skinny doc barns?
nope...what about it?
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Old 11-14-2007, 08:02 AM   #87
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i don't think it's legal to sell wild meat...
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Old 11-14-2007, 08:11 AM   #89
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no pimping bambi....
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no pimping bambi....
might think about trading some for a couple verses of blue Christmas.
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