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Old 03-11-2008, 12:32 AM  
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I think women going to college should carry guns

The girl who was abducted from her dorm. The hitchhiker who wasn't a college girl but was on a walk by herself.

Now these two coed hatecrime murders.
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:32 AM   #76
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:35 AM   #77
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:36 AM   #78
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Good luck, but the majority of college campuses restrict the presence of any firearms, whether you have a permit or not.
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:37 AM   #79
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I'm sorry you got all traumatized by witnessing a crime an obvious crime of passion. If the guy had slit her throat with a steak knife and then thrown himself in front of a train, would you want steak knives and trains made illegal?

Don't take this the wrong way Frazod, 'cause I admire you, but that is the same tired and lame argument everyone in the NRA likes to toss around as dribble.

There's a huge difference between a gun and a steak knife. Here's an example: The bf is sitting next to the gf in the classroom. He pulls out the gun, points it at her head and shoots. He then pulls it on himself. Two people dead before anyone can react appropriately or even know just what the hell had just happened.

Same situation, only the weapon of choice is a steak knife. Bf now has to get out of the chair to approach her with the steak knife and then begins stabbing her. It would take a great many stab wounds to kill her, but more importantly, because he is not able to finish her off immediately, other students in the room can easily pull him off of her, thus saving her life.

That is what gun haters use to defend no guns in our nation: the fact that they are so lethal and can be as easily obtained as a steak knife is.
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:44 AM   #80
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Don't take this the wrong way Frazod, 'cause I admire you, but that is the same tired and lame argument everyone in the NRA likes to toss around as dribble.

There's a huge difference between a gun and a steak knife. Here's an example: The bf is sitting next to the gf in the classroom. He pulls out the gun, points it at her head and shoots. He then pulls it on himself. Two people dead before anyone can react appropriately or even know just what the hell had just happened.

Same situation, only the weapon of choice is a steak knife. Bf now has to get out of the chair to approach her with the steak knife and then begins stabbing her. It would take a great many stab wounds to kill her, but more importantly, because he is not able to finish her off immediately, other students in the room can easily pull him off of her, thus saving her life.

That is what gun haters use to defend no guns in our nation: the fact that they are so lethal and can be as easily obtained as a steak knife is.
Wow, you’re buying some damn expensive steak knives with a background check and waiting period.
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:45 AM   #81
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Don't take this the wrong way Frazod, 'cause I admire you, but that is the same tired and lame argument everyone in the NRA likes to toss around as dribble.

There's a huge difference between a gun and a steak knife. Here's an example: The bf is sitting next to the gf in the classroom. He pulls out the gun, points it at her head and shoots. He then pulls it on himself. Two people dead before anyone can react appropriately or even know just what the hell had just happened.

Same situation, only the weapon of choice is a steak knife. Bf now has to get out of the chair to approach her with the steak knife and then begins stabbing her. It would take a great many stab wounds to kill her, but more importantly, because he is not able to finish her off immediately, other students in the room can easily pull him off of her, thus saving her life.

That is what gun haters use to defend no guns in our nation: the fact that they are so lethal and can be as easily obtained as a steak knife is.
I don't really see your point. A single stab wound can kill. OTOH, multiple gunshot wounds may only wound, not kill. It all depends on the nature of the wound, the person inflicting the wound, and the victim.
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:52 AM   #82
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Wow, you’re buying some damn expensive steak knives with a background check and waiting period.
Who's saying anything about background checks for steak knives? I am merely conveying the argument that anti-gun enthusiasts like to use, and that is that guns are lethal and as easy to obtain as a fuggen steak knife.
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:55 AM   #83
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the fact that they are so lethal and can be as easily obtained as a steak knife is.
That's not correct in most places around the country.
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:56 AM   #84
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Who's saying anything about background checks for steak knives? I am merely conveying the argument that anti-gun enthusiasts like to use, and that is that guns are lethal and as easy to obtain as a fuggen steak knife.
Sorry, I thought what I posted was pretty self evident, that guns are a lot more expensive and harder to buy than a "fuggen steak knife".
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Old 03-11-2008, 11:02 AM   #85
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The only people who give a damn about laws and regulations, are people who already follow them. Criminals are already armed.

A couple of honest people with concealed weapons could have saved a lot of lives over the years, in Luby's restaraunts and any other number of shooting locations.

At least a few of "the good guys" should be armed if they choose, IMO....but I don't know that the average student is ready for the responsibility.
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Old 03-11-2008, 11:12 AM   #86
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True, but she won't always be on campus...and she might not live on campus. But I do think it's crap that a competent, law abiding citizen is not afforded the right to protect themselves from the law breaking psychos who might want them dead...for whatever reason. I don't care where it is, campus or workplace...
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I could be wrong but my natural reaction to almost all gun crimes and especially ones like V-tech is that there should be tighter gun control not people getting more guns. Arming more people won't lead to less gun crimes. But will lead to more gun injury/deaths.
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Hey just trying to make a point. Here in Australia we had fairly leinet gun control. That was until a massacre is Tasmania when a guy came in and killed 35 people in a restaurant. After this the Australian government introduced a gun buy back scheme forcing people to hand in all sorts of guns including assault rifles and semi automatics. since that time gun violence in Australia has been steadily declining. Japan is another country which has very strict gun control coupled with low gun crime rates.

I understand that neither of these country are accurate views compared to your situation because neither country has a constitutional right to own guns. And I completely understand that only lawful citizens would stick to the law, however it seems from my point of view that restricting weapon does not increase weapon death but lowers it.
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