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Old 04-25-2008, 09:22 AM  
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Possible Chiefs\Saints trade

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DE Chris Long will be the Chiefs' pick if he's available, but should he be off the board Kansas City will want to retreat. swapping first-round picks with New Orleans and bringing [Jamaal]Brown into the fold would be an attractive scenario, as the Chiefs could then opt for another offensive lineman at No. 10 or get a much better value on their preferred defensive end, Derrick Harvey. And don't forget that extra picks beyond the swap of first-rounders would likely be included as well, so this would be a hard deal for Kansas City to turn down.
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Old 04-25-2008, 11:28 AM   #76
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I can't remember the last time a player has shot up the charts like Albert has.
He seemed pretty convinced Albert was the pick if Dorsey's off the board.

I didn't catch the guy's name, wish I'd paid more attention at the beginning...
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Old 04-25-2008, 11:29 AM   #77
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I'd do it. We get a proven Offensive Tackle in Jammal Brown, then we go guard with our 1st pick in bring in Branden Albert to fill the Right Guard position, and we can either draft defensive end or cornerback at # 17.

If I was the Chiefs I'd make this deal, cause I believe from what I heard if im correct that they want either Glenn Dorsey or Sedrick Ellis. I'd get on the phone and make this deal.
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Old 04-25-2008, 11:30 AM   #78
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Let me go on record as saying that if the Saints want to give up a young, very good LT, who makes peanuts, plus their 10 for our 5, I would do it in about one second.
I might consider it too. I still would send my guys to check on him and make sure that there isn't anything "out of the ordinary" on this guy. I mean, it's rare that some teams trade away a young LT who makes peanuts, just becuase they want to go up to get Dorsey.

Anyways, you going to the draft? IIRC, you went to one in NY awhile back, couldn't remember when it was.....
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Old 04-25-2008, 11:30 AM   #79
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It's also pretty clear that he doesn't know his asshole from his elbow. Last night in ESPN's mock when Gholston was taken at #4, McDickHead threw a fit, saying he has Gholston at 15. I would say his analysis is unwatchable, but it does contain a lot of comedic value, so that redeems him a tiny bit.
Have you seen him and Mel Kiper arguing about draft picks ? It's really funny.
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Old 04-25-2008, 11:33 AM   #80
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I might consider it too. I still would send my guys to check on him and make sure that there isn't anything "out of the ordinary" on this guy. I mean, it's rare that some teams trade away a young LT who makes peanuts, just becuase they want to go up to get Dorsey.

Anyways, you going to the draft? IIRC, you went to one in NY awhile back, couldn't remember when it was.....
I'd do it, if it was offered to us. You cant pass up deal like that. Last time we got a Offensive Tackle from the Saints he did really good for us, im talkin about Willie Roaf.

Like I said you got a young proven tackle in Jammal Brown, and it allows you to shift your focus to the other need positions being guard, defensive end, and cornerback.

Make the deal if it is offered, Period !
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Old 04-25-2008, 12:19 PM   #81
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Here's the full entry, making clear that the deal is for Ellis, not Dorsey.

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According to a league source, the New Orleans Saints are getting more serious in their efforts to move from No. 10 overall into the top portion of the first round in order to select DT Sedrick Ellis and are dangling former Pro Bowl OT Jammal Brown in front of a team with a higher pick.

Deductive reasoning tells us that team is likely the Kansas City Chiefs, who have the fifth overall pick. The St. Louis Rams should take DT Glenn Dorsey at No. 2, and the Atlanta Falcons (No. 3) and the Oakland Raiders (No. 4) do not have much interest in Ellis. The New York Jets won't want to trade back from sixth overall because of the chance they could get RB Darren McFadden at No. 6, and the New England Patriots are rumored to be leaning toward Ellis at No. 7 because of the value that pick would offer. All of which means Kansas City is in a perfect spot.

DE Chris Long will be the Chiefs' pick if he's available, but should he be off the board, Kansas City will want to retreat. Swapping first-round picks with New Orleans and bringing Brown into the fold would be an attractive scenario, as the Chiefs then could opt for another offensive lineman at No. 10 or get a much better value on their preferred defensive end, Derrick Harvey. And don't forget that extra picks beyond the swap of first-rounders likely would be included as well, so this would be a hard deal for Kansas City to turn down.

Should the above deal be completed, though, it will have to happen on the clock, as the Chiefs are not going to make any kind of deal until they know whether Long will be available.
I like Ellis but I'm all over that offer like a monkey on a cupcake.
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Old 04-25-2008, 12:20 PM   #82
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Albert is shooting up so fast that he'd better be careful. He might rocket past the #1 pick in this draft and end up in the 7th round of last year's draft.
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Old 04-25-2008, 12:21 PM   #83
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Albert is shooting up so fast that he'd better be careful. He might rocket past the #1 pick in this draft and end up in the 7th round of last year's draft.
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Old 04-25-2008, 12:22 PM   #84
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Here's the full entry, making clear that the deal is for Ellis, not Dorsey.



I like Ellis but I'm all over that offer like a monkey on a cupcake.
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Old 04-25-2008, 12:24 PM   #85
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I'm hoping that Dorsey or Chris Long are there.....but it's looking they aren't.

I'd love to have Ellis on the team but I don't know if I could pass up the trade.

I'm still wondering if they take this trade and then trade back up to 7 with the Pats to grab Ryan if he's there.
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Old 04-25-2008, 12:25 PM   #86
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Albert is shooting up so fast that he'd better be careful. He might rocket past the #1 pick in this draft and end up in the 7th round of last year's draft.


Won't that cause a tear in the Space-Time Continuum, dooming us all?
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Have you seen him and Mel Kiper arguing about draft picks ? It's really funny.
Yeah, last night after McShay threw his little hissy-fit about Gholston at 4, Mel did everything short of outright calling him a reerun.
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So majority opinion seems to be that Brown is a very solid LT?
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Old 04-25-2008, 12:43 PM   #89
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I might consider it too. I still would send my guys to check on him and make sure that there isn't anything "out of the ordinary" on this guy. I mean, it's rare that some teams trade away a young LT who makes peanuts, just becuase they want to go up to get Dorsey.

Anyways, you going to the draft? IIRC, you went to one in NY awhile back, couldn't remember when it was.....
I'm sure any trade would be contintengt on Brown passing a physical.

I'm planning on going. Have to wait outside this year in line for tickets. I went to the 05 and 06 draft. The new format will make it much more fan friendly.

Are you going?
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Old 04-25-2008, 12:43 PM   #90
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Please let these trade details be true.

I would take this deal in run with it, no question about it. We need a good proven Left Tackle and Jammal Brown is one and then we can draft Branden Albert to play Right Guard, and then get a Defensive End or Cornerback at # 17.

But this deal just seems to good to be true. Hopefully this gets done on draft day, cause if does then it would be a great trade. Last time we traded with the Saints we got Willie Roaf, hopefully this time this guy will make it a good trade too.

There's just no way you can pass this trade up, sorry to the guys that want Chris Long, even if he is on the board I wouldnt pass up on taking this trade. Same goes for Vernon Gholston.

Jammal Brown is a sure fire talent that you cant just let pass you by if he is offered, I believe if this deal has some truth to it, then on draft day if the Saints wanna move up to # 5 to get Sedrick Ellis then they will make this deal.
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