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Old 02-09-2009, 05:53 AM  
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Who has more td then

Matt ryan,joe flacco and ben rothlitberger. Why it's our own tyler thigpen and all 3 qbs i'd mention were in the playoff. So don't be so quick to dismiss him.
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Old 02-09-2009, 01:02 PM   #76
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Whatever. The fact remains that Ben is a franchise QB with 2 SB wins and is a great clutch player.

But keep on thinking that Thigpen is better.
Wait... Hold on. I NEVER said Thigpen was better.
That's crazy talk.

I just didn't think he played well in the Superbowl.
I also think he isn't as good as some people like to think.
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Old 02-09-2009, 01:03 PM   #77
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I love people who don't watch the game and go off the stats.
Good thing I watched the game.
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Old 02-09-2009, 01:05 PM   #78
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Good thing I watched the game.
Is the quotation in your sig. something that you believe strongly in, or something else?
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Old 02-09-2009, 01:07 PM   #79
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Is the quotation in your sig. something that you believe strongly in, or something else?
*Sigh*

It's from the Boondocks man!!!
And let's not get into that here in this thread.
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Old 02-09-2009, 01:19 PM   #80
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*Sigh*

It's from the Boondocks man!!!
And let's not get into that here in this thread.
Right on.

No, I don't want to go down that path, just wondering.
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Old 02-09-2009, 01:29 PM   #81
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Statistically no but when it comes to making a big play he is one of the best. The guy is clutch and that is what separates great QB's from good or average.

Just think about Joe Montana, he didn't always have the best stats but he was money in the big games
I would never put Big Ben and Joe Cool in the same category.
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Old 02-09-2009, 01:49 PM   #82
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Good grief.

He played well, the entire game. Wasn't the pick a deflected pass? Anyway, I'm not going to argue it.

You think he played poorly. Fine. Think that. But Roethlisberger did what he always does. Competed hard, kept his team in the game, and gave them a chance to win in the end.

As usual, in the biggest moments he sacked up and got it done. A typical performance for a high-level QB. Just another Sunday.
When did Ben adopt Herm's philosophy?
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Old 02-09-2009, 02:57 PM   #83
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Roethlisberger is basically just a game manager. He is above average, but he is asked to do exactly what Kerry Collins is asked to do. Manage the game, dont give up turnovers, let the defense win it, and put the offense in scoring position. Without any doubt, Roethlisberger would have NEVER sniffed any superbowls without his defense. He is a franchise qb, but to say he is a GREAT qb is a great overstatement. He's not even a Matt Ryan. If you asked me right now to pick a qb, I'd take Matt Ryan over him. Matt is not just a game manager.
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Old 02-09-2009, 03:04 PM   #84
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When did Ben adopt Herm's philosophy?


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Old 02-09-2009, 03:06 PM   #85
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Okee dokee. The Steelers #1 defense in practically every category is less responsible for the Steelers making and winning the SB than a middle of the road QB.

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Old 02-09-2009, 03:10 PM   #86
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Roethlisberger is basically just a game manager. He is above average, but he is asked to do exactly what Kerry Collins is asked to do. Manage the game, dont give up turnovers, let the defense win it, and put the offense in scoring position. Without any doubt, Roethlisberger would have NEVER sniffed any superbowls without his defense. He is a franchise qb, but to say he is a GREAT qb is a great overstatement. He's not even a Matt Ryan. If you asked me right now to pick a qb, I'd take Matt Ryan over him. Matt is not just a game manager.
Game managers don't make that throw at the end of the game.
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Old 02-09-2009, 03:20 PM   #87
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Personally. I give credit to the defense.

You must be saying the 2 defenses are equal. Or perhaps all other things are equal?

Stats are not the beginning and end of a players productivity. Oh wait, yes they are. The stats aren't everything arguement are for those left with no arguement.

Ben makes plays at times. But is not the reason the Steelers made the SB, or won the SB. However the defense is. Without that 100 yard int, the Card would have won that game.

It was thier defense. Statistics will prove that out.
The same defense that gave up over 400 yards and had two chances to stop Az in the 4th quarter and failed both times?

That defense? The one that registered two sacks against Mike Gandy and Levi Brown?

That one?
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Overrated fatasses who have more 4th quarter comebacks since they've started playing than anyone else in football who also happened to lead a 90 yard drive with 3 minutes left in the Super Bowl with one healthy receiver and two broken ribs.

What an overrated sack that guy is.
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Old 02-09-2009, 04:28 PM   #89
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The same defense that gave up over 400 yards and had two chances to stop Az in the 4th quarter and failed both times?

That defense? The one that registered two sacks against Mike Gandy and Levi Brown?

That one?
Yep, that one.

The one that had an INT return for a TD. That 14 point swing ultimately was the difference in the game.
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Old 02-09-2009, 05:19 PM   #90
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Overrated fatasses who have more 4th quarter comebacks since they've started playing than anyone else in football...
What an overrated sack that guy is.
That might be much more impressive if he'd been in the league longer than 4 years.
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