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Old 02-18-2009, 04:26 AM  
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Teicher: Chiefs’ Haley puts together coaching staff

Chiefs’ Haley puts together coaching staff
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

The Chiefs now have a staff of assistants to work with new head coach Todd Haley. In keeping with their new policy of hiding as much information as possible, the Chiefs wouldn’t disclose the duties of their assistant coaches.

But they retained Chan Gailey, who presumably will continue as offensive coordinator, and three other assistants from the staff of former coach Herm Edwards: Bob Bicknell, Joe D’Alessandris and Tim Krumrie.

Haley also hired seven new assistant coaches, including Gary Gibbs, the likely defensive coordinator. Gibbs, 56, spent the last three seasons as the defensive coordinator for the New Orleans Saints.

The head coach at Oklahoma during 1989-94, Gibbs has also served as linebacker coach for the Dallas Cowboys.

The other new assistants:

•Joel Collier, who has 17 seasons of NFL coaching experience. Collier most recently was the secondary coach for New England during 2005-07.

•Steve Hoffman, a 19-year NFL coaching veteran. Hoffman spent 16 seasons as the kicking coach for the Cowboys before moving on to special teams duties with Miami and Atlanta.

•Bill Muir, a 31-year NFL coaching veteran. Muir most recently spent seven seasons as Tampa Bay’s offensive coordinator and line coach, though he didn’t call the plays.

•Clancy Pendergast, who was the defensive coordinator for the Arizona Cardinals for the last five years.

•Pat Perles, who has spent most of his coaching career in college other than two seasons with the Rams in the early 1990s. Perles spent the last four seasons as the offensive coordinator at North Dakota State and recently was hired as offensive line coach at Ball State.

•Dedric Ward, who played wide receiver for eight NFL seasons. He started his coaching career at Missouri State in 2006 and was an offensive assistant for the Cardinals for the last two years.

Judging from the backgrounds of the new coaches, one likely offensive scenario has Gailey joined on offense by Ward (wide receivers) and Bicknell (tight ends). Muir, Perles and D’Alessandris have backgrounds coaching the offensive line, so it’s unclear what their duties will be.

On defense, both Gibbs and Pendergast have been coordinators and coached linebackers. Krumrie will likely remain as the line coach while Collier could coach the secondary.

Hoffman would be the special teams coach.

Brent Salazar and Cedric Smith were also retained from Edwards’ former staff as strength and conditioning coaches.

Through the Chiefs, Haley refused an interview request to explain his decisions.

Haley’s staff
The returnees: Bob Bicknell, Joe D’Alessandris, Chan Gailey, Tim Krumrie.

The newcomers: Joel Collier, Gary Gibbs, Steve Hoffman, Bill Muir, Clancy Pendergast, Pat Perles, Dedric Ward.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:05 AM   #76
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You like one way conversations. If you are going to talk shit on pioli moves then its ok for me to counter by saying why you are shitheads for getting on piolis case over crap like this when his track record has earned him some time to do things his way

When you get it back you whine that you are being told you can't say anything. Nothing of the sort. Fire away and have the balls to be fired back on

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Old 02-18-2009, 10:08 AM   #77
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For Gibbs that has to suck. He used to be over Teddy Pendergrass and now he will be under him.
when you google Gibbs, it indicates that he is the DC and Pendegrast role is undetermined.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:10 AM   #78
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You like one way conversations. If you are going to talk shit on pioli moves then its ok for me to counter by saying why you are shitheads for getting on piolis case over crap like this when his track record has earned him some time to do things his way

When you get it back you whine that you are being told you can't say anything. Nothing of the sort. Fire away and have the balls to be fired back on

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No, it's fine to counter what people are saying. But being a fucking jackass while doing it is quite another thing. If you will notice, the people who aren't being said fucking jackass, are being respected back. Talking to people who have been Chiefs fans for years and know their shit like an asshole, won't score too many points.


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Old 02-18-2009, 10:18 AM   #79
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I don't really give a shit if they put Krusty the ****ing Klown on the side lines with a head set. We got rid of Herm and Gunther, it's bound to be an upgrade. No more "In Tampa this, In Tampa that". No more cover who and no more flustration. I can't say it will be good but it's got to be better.
It will be "In Arizona" instead, that is if they even speak to the media.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:29 AM   #80
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That is exactly what I think is happening. It's not secrecy, it's just chaos.
If it was chaos, why announce anything at all? They could have just waited to sort everything out.

I'm just shocked that a rival fan would think this was chaos. Just shocked.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:30 AM   #81
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A source close to Romeo Crennel said Tuesday night the former Cleveland head coach and former New England defensive coordinator is not close to joining the Kansas City staff as a defensive coordinator. It is possible, at some point, the source said, that Crennel could join former New England colleague Scott Pioli as a defensive consultant.

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Old 02-18-2009, 10:38 AM   #82
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If it was chaos, why announce anything at all? They could have just waited to sort everything out.

I'm just shocked that a rival fan would think this was chaos. Just shocked.
I'm waiting to hear anyone put forward a logical reason to withhold that information if they know it. Maybe they just don't give a shit that their fans are interested?
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:40 AM   #83
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I'm waiting to hear anyone put forward a logical reason to withhold that information if they know it. Maybe they just don't give a shit that their fans are interested?
And I'm waiting to hear a reason to announce the hirings if they didn't already know who was coaching what.

When Pioli and Haley met with them, did they just say you're going to coach the Chiefs and we'll decide your position later?

But yes, keep believing it's chaos.
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And I'm waiting to hear a reason to announce the hirings if they didn't already know who was coaching what.

When Pioli and Haley met with them, did they just say you're going to coach the Chiefs and we'll decide your position later?

But yes, keep believing it's chaos.
It's obvious they're waiting on something. If they announce Gibbs as DC and then hire Crennel, what are they going to do, retract their announcement? On the other hand, if they announce him as LB coach and Crennel (or whoever) doesn't come aboard, how do they explain Gibbs' sudden promotion next week without giving away that they didn't get their man?

There may be other hires in the same vein. Hunt said they weren't through yet.

The net result is that they still don't know what jobs one or more of those guys are going to have.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:48 AM   #85
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If the coordinators are not known at 1 Arrowhead Drive already then this whole hiring thing is bass-ackwards. You don't hire the assistants and then tell your new coordinator this is who you have to work with. You hire the coordinator and then at the very least give them a chance for serious input on who they wants to have working for them.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:51 AM   #86
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I don't think Romeo is going to coach this season....He is supposedly going to have a hip replaced
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what exactly does this guy do?

why is he consider a coach and not a front office guy?


NATE WAINWRIGHT

PositionManager of Football Operations/Player Development
Year Hired2006
HometownWilton, Iowa
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8th Year NFL Coach • 3rd with Chiefs
Nate Wainwright is entering his third season with the Chiefs. After serving as Manager of Football Administration from 2006-07, he currently serves as the club’s Manager of Football Operations/Player Development in 2008. In addition to his football duties, Wainwright also works with the club’s players in conjunction with Lamonte Winston and the Chiefs Player Development Department.

Wainwright came to Kansas City after a five-year stint working with head coach Herm Edwards as a member of the N.Y. Jets staff from 2001-05. Wainwright held the title of Executive Adminstrator to the Head Coach/Coaching Assistant with the Jets in 2005 after serving as a coaching assistant during his first four years with that organization.



The Wilton, Iowa native returned to his Midwestern roots in 2006, joining Edwards in Kansas City. Wainwright reports directly to the Chiefs head coach and performs a variety of both football and administrative duties, serving as a liason between the Kansas City coaching staff and other departments within the Chiefs organization. Wainwright is involved in assisting with the football budget and also works closely with the club executives in the adminstration of training camp.



Wainwright works in close conjunction with the Chiefs defensive coaching staff fulfilling a number of duties during the off-season, training camp and regular season. He assists defensive backs coach David Gibbs in tutoring the clubs defensive backfield. He also coordinates the team’s schedules with Edwards and implements the club’s organizational timeline during practice and during pregame warm-ups. In addition, he handles a variety of logistical issues that arise when integrating a wide range of other events at Arrowhead Stadium around the club’s football schedule.


During his tenure with Edwards in New York, Wainwright worked with the Jets defensive coaching staff, handling various duties including game plan preparations, self-scouting reports and offensive tendency reports. His in-game responsibilities in the coaching booth ranged from communicating down and distance information to the field, as well as identifying personnel packages and presenting information for potential tactical adjustments at halftime.
Wainwright began his NFL career in ‘98 as a Ticket Sales Intern with the New Orleans Saints before earning a full-time position as a Ticket Sales Executive with the Saints in 2000. He also assisted the Saints coaching staff on a volunteer basis during his tenure in New Orleans.
A graduate of the University of Iowa with a degree in Communications, he was a high school letterman in five different sports (football, baseball, basketball, golf and track) at Wilton High School in Wilton, Iowa.

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Education: University of Iowa (B.A. ‘98). Born: Wilton, Iowa. Family: Wife - Natalie.


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