Falcons after Gonzalez

[Crush]

Originally Posted by Cormac

I can't believe all this "Tony is a whiny ass bitch" stuff.

Who cares if he demands excellence?!?! If that makes him a whiny ass bitch, then we're all whiny ass bitches on this board. Do you people long for the "we're OK with losing" attitudes of Eric Hicks???

The difference between TG and most other players is that he has earned the right to complain, and even to ask for a trade if he sees fit. The important thing is that when he doesn't get traded, what does he do? He laces up the next week and PLAYS HIS ASS OFF every play. That's the kind of guy I want on my team. A 2nd round pick might be good value to the drafturbators, but I'd rather keep him.

What will a 2nd round pick do? We have a new QB and a new scheme coming in. TG could be invaluable in getting this thing up and running the right way. We have a lot of picks, and we have lots of youth already. Herm's biggest mistake (after choosing football coach as a career) was to jettison virtually all vets and leave the team rudderless. Pioli seems to be addressing that.

Yes and, as a fan, I have a right to call him on his whining and bitching. You know what else? Pioli has the right to ship his whiny-ass bitch out of town for a 2nd round pick.

Also, Tony is only going to be with us for one to two more years. A 2nd Round pick has better potential than an aging TE.

Furthermore, we are not competing next year, so losing Tony would not really matter at this point.

[philfree]

Gonzo could really help Cassel as his go to guy. The proper use of a 2nd round pick could help too but Pioli, Haley and Co. gonna want to win every game they can. That being the case I can see keeping Gonzo.


PhilFree

[Cormac]

Originally Posted by Crush

Yes and, as a fan, I have a right to call him on his whining and bitching. You know what else? Pioli has the right to ship his whiny-ass bitch out of town for a 2nd round pick.

Also, Tony is only going to be with us for one to two more years. A 2nd Round pick has better potential than an aging TE.

Furthermore, we are not competing next year, so losing Tony would not really matter at this point.

So you think he should be satisfied with the way the team around him has performed over his career? Just sit quietly and pretend 0 playoff wins is befitting of his ambition and talent?

BTW, I realise well that Pioli "has the right". And that a 2nd round pick could be a much more valuable asset than an aging TE (but the odds are very debatable). But Tony is not the problem with the Chiefs.

[ShortRoundChief]

Originally Posted by Cormac

So you think he should be satisfied with the way the team around him has performed over his career? Just sit quietly and pretend 0 playoff wins is befitting of his ambition and talent?

BTW, I realise well that Pioli "has the right". And that a 2nd round pick could be a much more valuable asset than an aging TE (but the odds are very debatable). But Tony is not the problem with the Chiefs.

Perhaps not and perhaps yes. If he's constantly bitching in public there is no telling how he acts behind closed doors.

[Crush]

Originally Posted by Cormac

So you think he should be satisfied with the way the team around him has performed over his career? Just sit quietly and pretend 0 playoff wins is befitting of his ambition and talent?

BTW, I realise well that Pioli "has the right". And that a 2nd round pick could be a much more valuable asset than an aging TE (but the odds are very debatable). But Tony is not the problem with the Chiefs.

1. Should he stay quiet? Yes. He needs to respect the chain of command and keep his mouth shut. The inmates should not be able to run the asylum.

2. Tony is not the problem with the Chiefs? Um... yes he is. He represents everything that is wrong with this franchise. 0-3 in playoff situations. Prima donna attitude. This sense of immortality. Player loyalty. We have won jack shit with Tony. He is old culture. The only way to change the culture of a franchise is to get rid of the losers of the previous culture.

If the Colts can let Marvin Harrison go, then the Chiefs can sure as hell get rid of Tony.

[wild1]

Originally Posted by Cormac

The difference between TG and most other players is that he has earned the right to complain

BS... when he cashes his paycheck, his end of the deal is that he is supposed to be totally committed to the Kansas City Chiefs winning the super bowl. No part of that includes crying to the media about wanting to be traded.

If he wants to be traded, walk into Pioli's office and ask for it. It's team business. Deal with it in-house instead of in the media.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by wild1

BS... when he cashes his paycheck, his end of the deal is that he is supposed to be totally committed to the Kansas City Chiefs winning the super bowl. No part of that includes crying to the media about wanting to be traded.

If he wants to be traded, walk into Pioli's office and ask for it. It's team business. Deal with it in-house instead of in the media.

This.

If he wanted to play for a contender, he shouldn't have signed the contract.

Except he realized there was no way he was going to get that kind of money on the open market.

Even with that said, if you're that ****ing unhappy here, be a man and take it up with the boss directly, instead of having the media fight your battles for you.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by wild1

BS... when he cashes his paycheck, his end of the deal is that he is supposed to be totally committed to the Kansas City Chiefs winning the super bowl. No part of that includes crying to the media about wanting to be traded.

If he wants to be traded, walk into Pioli's office and ask for it. It's team business. Deal with it in-house instead of in the media.

Yep. You can't cry wolf to the fans forever and expect it to hold up. As I said, I have defended and defended and defended this guy; no more.

Stay or go, but wherever you go, shut the **** up and do your job.

[Cormac]

Originally Posted by wild1

BS... when he cashes his paycheck, his end of the deal is that he is supposed to be totally committed to the Kansas City Chiefs winning the super bowl. No part of that includes crying to the media about wanting to be traded.

If he wants to be traded, walk into Pioli's office and ask for it. It's team business. Deal with it in-house instead of in the media.

I don't really give a toss how he deals with trade requests or the media. He has probably had 50,000 interviews over the years and he has said very very few things that can be held against him. He is totally committed to the Chiefs when the ball is in the air and that is what matters.

[Crush]

Also, winning 10 games should not be the goal of this team. The goal of this team is to win a Super Bowl. Anything else and you are a loser. Only one team comes out as a winner for the year. I want the Chiefs to be that winner. I'm tired of the Chiefs being grouped together with the 31 other losers.

If Atlanta is willing to give up their 2nd round pick, then so be it. See you later, California pretty boy, you never liked KC to begin with. GTFO

[chiefs1111]

Im sorry but with our schedule there is now way we win 10 games this year. Maybe we could go 7-9 this season,and thats a BIG maybe... more likely 5-11

[wild1]

If they are offering a second rounder I would take that deal instantly.

[Frankie]

How about Gonzo and LJ for their 1st instead? Turner will need a breather once in a while. Tell you what, I'd throw in our second 7th rounder just good measure.

[wild1]

Originally Posted by Frankie

How about Gonzo and LJ for their 1st instead? Turner will need a breather once in a while. Tell you what, I'd throw in our second 7th rounder just good measure.

I don't know why anyone would want Johnson, presumably if they trade for him then they get his contract, and thus his (way too high) salary will be guaranteed.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Frankie

How about Gonzo and LJ for their 1st instead? Turner will need a breather once in a while. Tell you what, I'd throw in our second 7th rounder just good measure.

Falcons don't have any need for LJ.

Turner and Norwood are an outstanding 1-2 punch.