Chiefs Defensive Line - Page 6

chuxtrux · 04-17-2009, 12:40 PM

If they do move Hali to OLB in the 3-4, who are they going to have in the trenches. Dorsey isn't really suited to play in the middle in that kind of defense, do they move him outside and put Tyler at NT? And I guess put McBride in the other DE spot? Not that the defensive line can get much worse than last year, but it is still the one spot on the team that I have no idea what they are going to do with.

Pioli Zombie · 04-17-2009, 06:16 PM

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It would be a ridiculous schedule if we didn't get to play the AFCW. As it stands it's pretty tough, ya.

I've never seen a first half schedule as tough as the Chiefs have. The entire NFC East in a row plus Baltimore and San Diego? Who did Hunt piss off???
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bdeg · 04-17-2009, 06:17 PM

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Eh I read it real fast...the problem remains most of them are going to be role players. I mean that isn't horrid but they don't appear to have the NT or the pass rusher they'll need.

Plus we have a defensive coaching staff that most people would agree is rather questionable.

I think Tank can be the NT we need. And I hope we acquire a pass rusher in the draft. If we don't we'll need to pick someone up when teams make cuts. Maybe Johnston can excel in the scheme.

As for the defensive staff, 2 DC's should be able to collaborate. I wish we would've gotten Crennel, but this isn't the end of the world. That defense played well in the playoffs for having a few holes.

Mecca · 04-17-2009, 06:17 PM

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Well, again..... the NT would either be Dorsey, if they think he can do it, or Raji. It really shouldn't be about this upcoming season for the team and fans anyway. This is a year that people should be looking at improvement that may not translate to wins. Next season should be an easier schedule and the second year under the new regime. That's when the wins should really start to take on some significance.

That's fine, I was more directing that at people who seem to think the Chiefs can compete for the playoffs right now.

**SAUTO** · 04-17-2009, 06:18 PM

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I think Tank can be the NT we need. And I hope we acquire a pass rusher in the draft. If we don't we'll need to pick someone up when teams make cuts. Maybe Johnston can excel in the scheme.

As for the defensive staff, 2 DC's should be able to collaborate. I wish we would've gotten Crennel, but this isn't the end of the world. That defense played well in the playoffs for having a few holes.

i agree about tank, he needs to work on those legs though

Mecca · 04-17-2009, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bdeg

I think Tank can be the NT we need. And I hope we acquire a pass rusher in the draft. If we don't we'll need to pick someone up when teams make cuts. Maybe Johnston can excel in the scheme.

As for the defensive staff, 2 DC's should be able to collaborate. I wish we would've gotten Crennel, but this isn't the end of the world. That defense played well in the playoffs for having a few holes.

I'm not sure what Tyler is...he isn't really built like a NT, he's top heavy.

bdeg · 04-17-2009, 06:18 PM

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I've never seen a first half schedule as tough as the Chiefs have. The entire NFC East in a row plus Baltimore and San Diego? Who did Hunt piss off???
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Haha, everyone's mad we got The Dynasty, himself.

bdeg · 04-17-2009, 06:19 PM

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I'm not sure what Tyler is...he isn't really built like a NT, he's top heavy.

He has a strong upper body, which make no mistake is a good thing. I don't think he's lacking in lower body strength either, though. The two aren't mutually exclusive. Some informed sounding people keep saying he's playing at 340, that sounds like a NT to me. And he plays hard and physical, and has improved a lot in his time.

Mecca · 04-17-2009, 06:20 PM

Weight doesn't always equal strength..and the way he carries it is very important. Rajis lower body build is the main reason people think he can be a NT.

**SAUTO** · 04-17-2009, 06:21 PM

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He has a strong upper body, which make no mistake is a good thing. I don't think he's lacking in lower body strength either, though. The two aren't mutually exclusive. Some informed sounding people keep saying he's playing at 340, that sounds like a NT to me. And he plays hard and physical, and has improved a lot in his time.

yep but LOOK at those little legs(for his size)

Pioli Zombie · 04-17-2009, 06:21 PM

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That's fine, I was more directing that at people who seem to think the Chiefs can compete for the playoffs right now.

Well see if one play had gone the other way at Denver and one play had been different agaoinst the Chargers and one drive had been different against the Jets that's gets them to 5-11. Then Carl and Herm are gone. That's worth 3 games, right? So now its up to 8-8. Cassel is worth at least one win more than Thigpen, right? 9-7. They will draft some good players. So the Chiefs are aready 10-6 before any FA's are signed!!!
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Mecca · 04-17-2009, 06:22 PM

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Well see if one play had gone the other way at Denver and one play had been different agaoinst the Chargers and one drive had been different against the Jets that's gets them to 5-11. Then Carl and Herm are gone. That's worth 3 games, right? So now its up to 8-8. Cassel is worth at least one win more than Thigpen, right? 9-7. They will draft some good players. So the Chiefs are aready 10-6 before any FA's are signed!!!
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That'd be really funny if there weren't people that really believed it.

Just Passin' By · 04-17-2009, 06:22 PM

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That's fine, I was more directing that at people who seem to think the Chiefs can compete for the playoffs right now.

I think those people expect a Denver collapse and the continuing descent into mediocrity of the Chargers. In a weak division, every team thinks it has a chance.

If you look at the schedule and take a 3-3 record in division....

Ravens - should struggle early with the revamped defense and the "O" isn't very good

Eagles - Who knows right now? They SHOULD be the vastly superior team.

Cowboys - See above

Redskins - Good, but nothing special.

Giants - Should crush the Chiefs

Jaguars - Should be much improved over last year, but there's a lot of change there

Steelers - Should crush the Chiefs

Bills - Shouldn't be all that good a team

Browns - See above

Bengals - See above

If everything broke right, are there 5-6 wins there?

Ravens
Bengals
Browns
Bills
Jaguars
NFC East

That's where the 'homer' kicks in.

bdeg · 04-17-2009, 06:23 PM

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Weight doesn't always equal strength..and the way he carries it is very important. Rajis lower body build is the main reason people think he can be a NT.

Speaking of how they carry weight, I'd argue Tank carries it a better and has less fat than Raji. I'm not 100% on that though, I mean damn I didn't even realize he was that big until others pointed it out. Raji is heavier than Tank was coming out of college, though.

**SAUTO** · 04-17-2009, 06:24 PM

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Speaking of how they carry weight, I'd argue Tank carries it a better and has less fat than Raji. I'm not 100% on that though, I mean damn I didn't even realize he was that big until others pointed it out. Raji is heavier than Tank was coming out of college, though.

Raji looks like he has more "fat" than tank

Pioli Zombie · 04-17-2009, 06:25 PM

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I think those people expect a Denver collapse and the continuing descent into mediocrity of the Chargers. In a weak division, every team thinks it has a chance.

If you look at the schedule and take a 3-3 record in division....

Ravens - should struggle early with the revamped defense and the "O" isn't very good

Eagles - Who knows right now? They SHOULD be the vastly superior team.

Cowboys - See above

Redskins - Good, but nothing special.

Giants - Should crush the Chiefs

Jaguars - Should be much improved over last year, but there's a lot of change there

Steelers `-

Oh crap I forgot the Steelers too.

Well, a 4-12 season will mean another year of good draft picks.
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04-17-2009, 12:40 PM
chuxtrux Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grbacs basement Casino cash: $10004990	Defensive Line If they do move Hali to OLB in the 3-4, who are they going to have in the trenches. Dorsey isn't really suited to play in the middle in that kind of defense, do they move him outside and put Tyler at NT? And I guess put McBride in the other DE spot? Not that the defensive line can get much worse than last year, but it is still the one spot on the team that I have no idea what they are going to do with.
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